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Old 06-03-2015, 08:15 PM   #1
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Self Level-ing Comparison

Been doing some research for a future move to a fifth wheel, wondering what is the preferred self level-ing system, hydraulic or electric? Any input would be appreciated.
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Old 06-03-2015, 09:46 PM   #2
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If I were to buy one aftermarket, I think I would want a hydraulic system because it should be faster than electric. Not that I'm in a rush- it's just that my current front landing gear is crap-slow.
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Camping right now in our nearly new Sabre with ground control 3.0, lci's electric leveling system. So far, it's batting much less then 50%. It's worked close to perfect twice, and hasn't worked about 5 times... I kept getting errors when setting up tonight, and had to manually level.... I'll probably suffer through this season and then get this beast into service for my list...
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I have hope that Lippert can sort out their hydraulic system where each foot had its own reservoir. That would save long runs of hydraulic lines.

But then again- it's Lippert and likely substandard. I like the Bigfoot system.
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My Ground Control 3.0 doesn't always do the auto level perfect but running it in manual mode is so easy since the control tells you which leg needs adjusting. Its OK and I like it. Main reason I went electric was it was $1495 vs. $3,300. Also I didn't want to mess with messy hydra fluid.
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Old 06-04-2015, 12:36 AM   #6
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Love my crusader self leveling system-no issues. Well worth the cost! I push a button & move on to other setup items while it is doing its thing & BAM, it's done. I think now I'm spoiled but hey, I bought it so I'll use it. Just my 2 cents-sorry for the nickel sized comments.
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I have hope that Lippert can sort out their hydraulic system where each foot had its own reservoir. That would save long runs of hydraulic lines.

But then again- it's Lippert and likely substandard. I like the Bigfoot system.
Why?

Being a retired engineer from Cat and doing the last 20 years in hydraulics. I have seen some hydraulic hose runs as long as 20 feet or longer on excavators. Hose assemblies are cheap and easy to replace and trouble shoot. Where electronics will fail and cause all sorts of GREMINALS that controls the hydraulic pumps. You are asking for a nightmare be-careful for what you ask for.

Now I have the 6-point hydraulic level up system on my Cedar Creek 34RL and it has worked flawlessly (knock on wood) so far. My wife is the one who operator the system and all she does is push the button to extend the front legs I un-hook the truck. I than drive the truck away and she hits the auto level and walks away.
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Thanks for the input, I think the hydraulic system, although more expensive would seem like our best bet.
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Lippert hydraulic works very well if you use it in manual mode. I had a couple of bad experiences using the automatic leveling and haven't used the automatic in a year and a half.....
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Why?

Being a retired engineer from Cat and doing the last 20 years in hydraulics. I have seen some hydraulic hose runs as long as 20 feet or longer on excavators. Hose assemblies are cheap and easy to replace and trouble shoot. Where electronics will fail and cause all sorts of GREMINALS that controls the hydraulic pumps. You are asking for a nightmare be-careful for what you ask for.

Now I have the 6-point hydraulic level up system on my Cedar Creek 34RL and it has worked flawlessly (knock on wood) so far. My wife is the one who operator the system and all she does is push the button to extend the front legs I un-hook the truck. I than drive the truck away and she hits the auto level and walks away.
Truthfully? Irrational fear. I'm a computer guy and the long runs seem like they'd be problematic (but no different than the long runs of everything else in the camper).

Thanks for a proper perspective.
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