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Old 05-12-2016, 09:35 AM   #31
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I can't agree more with you on the traer tires I have worked on trucks and trailers for over 45 years and don't recall ever getting as poor mileage on a set of trailer tires as I have with the ones on my current RV it seemed that trailer tires wod take all kinds of abuse scuffing from running into obstacles jackknife turns under I flation overloaded etc and just keep on going. I think I will be replacing my tires with the Goodyear 14 ply youention as mine fail which I am certain will happen sooner than I want them to.
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Old 05-12-2016, 10:19 AM   #32
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LT tires ARE rated for trailer service in the USA!

That is what was used for many years before the ST tires, and they are still rated for trailer service by not just the manufacturers, but are required to to meet trailer service standards by the DOT. If they don't meet those standards they can not be sold as LT tires, last I knew. Also, many LT tires have even stiffer sidewalls than these crummy ST tires.

Some of the manufacturers say that you can use their passenger tires on a trailer, but you must de-rate them anywhere from 10-20%. Personally I feel that passenger tires have too soft of a side wall for even an SUV. I would never think about putting them on a trailer! I would think that would be a sure recipe for sway.

YMMV
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Old 05-12-2016, 11:17 AM   #33
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ROGER THAT , I had conversations with Goodyear tech in Akron Ohio and they sort of confirmed all of that. They said the Wrangler HT was a good choice in the LT 245 10 ply. The HT does not have the off road aggressive tread design so it runs better on the highway.
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Old 05-12-2016, 11:22 AM   #34
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I haven't used, or mounted for someone else, a Wrangler HT in quite a few years, but they were a very nice tire back when I did have some experience with them.

Long wearing too.
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Old 05-12-2016, 11:32 AM   #35
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I think some of the tire experts on the various RV websites are on a tire or RV manufactures side. Just my thought because they all sing the same tune and always seem to put the blame on the owners. They never cast a negative comment on the Chinese tire manufactures or the RV dealers. Guess we have another dirty little secret to contend with.
Wow, you're just full of conspiracy theories?!

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very constructive!
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Old 05-12-2016, 12:30 PM   #37
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very constructive!
It's not a whole lot different than your posts. You've so far made wild claims that are wholly unsubstantiated. Earlier you claimed "The dirty little secret about ST tires is the NHTSA treats them as a wheel barrow tire." and offered up no proof. Now you've claimed that there's a conspiracy between RV websites and the tire manufacturers. With claims this absurd, it's hard to take you credible.


That all said- if you want constructive comments:

Personally, I feel like a vast majority of people ride on ST tires with no issues. Many RVs are sold without those owners coming to forums to say "yep, still riding on my tires; no issues." For me, I had about 15,000 miles on my ST tires with very few issues.

I ultimately upgraded away from ST tires, but it was because I was overloading the ST tires and had no options. Not the tire's fault.

AND, going with LT tires is not a guarantee of no issues. I can tell you stories of a few different friends who all had flats/blowouts with LT tires. It can and does happen.
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Old 05-12-2016, 06:55 PM   #39
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I spend some time on the road and have rv haulers both pass and meet me, going hell bent for leather. All that extra heat from them speeding however many miles to their destination can't be good for the tires. they may be damaged before the trailer is purchased.
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The dirty little secret about ST tires is the NHTSA treats them as a wheel barrow tire. Because they don't carry passengers or act as drive or steer wheels they don't investigate the failures. The Chinese manufactures know this and make them as cheap as possible because our government will not hold them responsible for property damage. Thus RV manufactures get cheap tires and there hands are clean. Then the experts lecture us on how we don't treat the tires correctly or drive to fast.
What is also true is that RV owners seldom file actionable complaints with NHTSA because it's too inconvenient. Yes it is possible some distributors are playing games with the regulations by keeping the volume low enough to stay under the radar. Why else to we see so many "no-name" brand tires on TT?

One thing we could do is demand better warranty from the RV industry but as long as we keep buying the "Bling" , lights and mirrors the RV dealers will continue selling the hype rather than quality product.

But hey I guess I have to accept the blame for the fact that over half of all RVs that have been weighed have a tire in overload or the fact that a good portion of TT are driven faster than the tire rating simply because I try and educate owners on the proper care of their tires.
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