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Old 05-03-2016, 12:36 PM   #1
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Tire failures and a trip to the scales (CAT)

I have been towing trailers and 5th wheels since the late 80's and never had the need to weigh my rig until this weekend. Since buying my 2007 toy box I have had many tire failures. Then getting a 2014 Prime Time Crusader 295RST the failures started at about 1 year to 18 months later . Never before the 2007 did I ever have a tire issue. I have to say I am anel about inspections and checking equipment. (I was a aircraft inspector for many years)
But back to the weight issues.
Steer Axle 4280
Drive Axle 5180
Trailer Axle 8180

The Truck uses Goodyear Wrangler LT 265 75 r16 rated at 3000 lbs at 80psi
The trailer now uses Goodyear wrangler LT 245 75 r16 rated the same as the truck which should provide a 4000lb buffer. The st tires should of had a 5600lb buffer but not in real life.

The Camper was loaded for a weekend trip with water and holding tanks empty propane full and food and clothing for 2 people for 4 days.

The only common connection in the tire failures since my 2007 is all ST tires are from CHINA. I can't side with the apologists
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Old 05-03-2016, 01:10 PM   #2
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I would agree all these "conflicts" overseas put a high demand on good rubber. Even Goodyear went to China on some tires. Now manufactures are just being cheap IMOH.
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Old 05-03-2016, 06:54 PM   #3
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Wonder why nobody other than China makes St tires?
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Old 05-03-2016, 08:03 PM   #4
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The dirty little secret

The dirty little secret about ST tires is the NHTSA treats them as a wheel barrow tire. Because they don't carry passengers or act as drive or steer wheels they don't investigate the failures. The Chinese manufactures know this and make them as cheap as possible because our government will not hold them responsible for property damage. Thus RV manufactures get cheap tires and there hands are clean. Then the experts lecture us on how we don't treat the tires correctly or drive to fast.
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Old 05-04-2016, 12:15 AM   #5
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That's sucks. I keep hearing Maxxis is the best ST tire? Chinese also?
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Old 05-04-2016, 10:29 AM   #6
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The dirty little secret about ST tires is the NHTSA treats them as a wheel barrow tire. Because they don't carry passengers or act as drive or steer wheels they don't investigate the failures.

Do you have facts to backup this claim?
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That's sucks. I keep hearing Maxxis is the best ST tire? Chinese also?

Mine were Thailand. I think people who have researched it say they make them in a few different places, but that same general region.
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Old 05-04-2016, 10:41 AM   #8
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My next set of tires are going to be American-made. They are going to be Carlisle USA Trail tires.

Here's a link:

https://www.treaddepot.com/#!productGroup/tires/usat

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I Spoke With Carlisle

I just got off of the phone with a rep at Carlisle and confirmed that the USA Trail is the ONLY ST tire made by them in the USA. The maximum load range is "D" (for most of our purposes) and the max speed rating is 65mph.

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I just got off of the phone with a rep at Carlisle and confirmed that the USA Trail is the ONLY ST tire made by them in the USA. The maximum load range is "D" (for most of our purposes) and the max speed rating is 65mph.

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Keep in mind... they are bias ply tires.
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