Tires...GY Marathon or Carlisle.

[B and B]

Getting quotes this morning on Trailer Tires. Seems most dealers want to sell Carlisle ST D rated for my Rockwood. First quote is $17 more per tire than GY Marathons. Maxxis are not an option, no one stocks or installs locally. Seen some issues with Carlilse on other threads, a few years old now. Any feedback is welcome.

This leaves 's with GY Marathons installed by a GY dealer.
Easy decision?

[John4th]

Opinions will vary. I put Marathons on my trailer, I had very good luck with them on my previous trailer. I bought them through Discount Tire. They have lifetime warranty on them. So if I find one cracking, then it gets replaced.

Most likely you already know this, but keep them inflated and covered.

Good luck!


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[Witch Doctor]

I have been very happy with the GY marathons on 2 trailers now, I haven't had any problems at all.

[OldCoot]

GY Marathons, no question!

[ACE110]

Just getting back into camping after many years away, but have had good luck with the GY's on my cargo trailers.

[B and B]

I have the GY on order. When checking out dealers the local non GY dealer was 120 bucks less yet the tires come from the same warehouse. I asked for a fresh set and would be checking date codes prior to install. Both dealers I have dealt with in the past have had no issues on landscape trailer with Carlisle. I did mention I am going with load range D and have 10,000 lbs, I doubt any landscape trailer has 10k on it.
I grew up with Tires putting food on the table, happened to be Dominion Rubber then bought by Uniroyal and them Michelin. Tough not putting company rubber on. lol

Thank you for all your opinions and comments.

[DaveSchwartz]

Had mine ordered, mounted, balanced and installed at Bast for CDN$825. The GY was $4 less per tire than the Carlisle. They certainly have experience now changing tires on a Rockwood 828x. Just backed 'er up to door #4 and they did it in place in about an hour and a half.

P.S. Date codes were all 3513

[ontario_camper]

Here in Kingston, GY Marathons are $30 more per tire then Carlisles, for 205/75/14. Could have also put on Goodride tires, that were $60 less then the GY's. The Marathons go on tomorrow, as we leave to go down east next week.

[B and B]

I am going in today for GY Marathons. The actual GY dealer says they provide road hazard warranty for extra $150 per set but the restrictions on getting actual replacement are pretty strict. I opted for the non GY dealer, getting tires from the same warehouse with no road hazard.They are suppose to be the best and not have problems.

[B and B]

I am sure glad I had new GY Marathons installed today. The old Trail Express tires where falling apart inside. Chunks of rubber failing off inside the bead. There is no way this is a curb hit, or road hazard. The actual rubber is crumbling. The Tire is 33 week of 12 and was in service 1 year. Inside of tire crumbling.


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Very lucky and not very happy currently.

Brian

[DaveSchwartz]

Bullet dodged!

[B and B]

Originally Posted by DaveSchwartz

Bullet dodged!

No kidding. I had them set pressure to 65 psi, did you by chance see the max pressure for the rims? I looked and could not find it!

Brian

[newstang79]

That bead damage looks like the installer tore the tire taking it off the rim, it could not have been tore like that and still held air. I have seen many tore like that when someone forgot to lube the bead before removal. I have seen it happen to brand new tires also when they were not lubed.

[Witch Doctor]

Originally Posted by B and B

No kidding. I had them set pressure to 65 psi, did you by chance see the max pressure for the rims? I looked and could not find it!

Brian

The max pressure that is stamped on the rim is 60lbs PSI. You shouldn't have a problem at all. The highest PSI that my TST system showed 72 PSI after running for about an hour and stayed there. That rim can hold alot more then what they have stamped on them........ there is also a web site for your rims, just type in the address that is on the hub cap.

[B and B]

Originally Posted by newstang79

That bead damage looks like the installer tore the tire taking it off the rim, it could not have been tore like that and still held air. I have seen many tore like that when someone forgot to lube the bead before removal. I have seen it happen to brand new tires also when they were not lubed.

I would agree with the installer damage, they were really wet on the bead when removed. The rubber just crumbles, you can break it and make it crack in other places. Former tire factory worker here, the tire looks like not enough heat when it was in the mould or poor compounding. Rubber should not crumble.

[dcheatwood]

I've had both with no issues. Favorite is Maxxis

[DaveSchwartz]

I could not find any max pressure stamp on the rims - just that the placard said they were 15x6JJ - which are good for 60 or 65 psi (still hard to find out which). If I had gone for E-rated tires, Steve Wideman at Sauder's said I'd have a hard time finding a reputable tire shop that would mount them on those rims.

I had them set mine at 58 but it was a warm afternoon when they did it. When I left on a 2.5hr tow last week it was a cool morning and they were 54. Once on the road, the TST TPMS showed they went back up to 61psi (at worst, when it was about 80F air temp on the 401 and between 85F and 91F tire temp depending on whether they were on the sun or shade side).

Note that tires don't always have to be inflated to their max pressure. They get inflated to the appropriate level for the load. GY has a chart for Marathons here that shows 65psi on the 225/75R15 supports the max load of 2540. That's 10160 on the axles (or about 12000 GVW allowing for about an 18% loaded pin weight). Not only would the Weight Police be after you but you would be breaking your 4000lb axles at that weight. Since your real-world weight on the tires is more likely to be a bit less than 8000lbs at your trailer's GVW, 65psi is significantly above what GY would recommend for that load.

Not to say the tires won't take it, however the ride for the trailer will be harsh, the axles will be being beaten up (the Torflex relies on the tires for at least part of the shock absorption) and the contact wear pattern will be towards the over-inflated side (with the associated handling and braking effects of over-inflation).

Even the 58psi I had them set at is a bit over-inflated but its a compromise I'm comfortable with. You may still be comfortable at max pressure. YMMV.

[OldCoot]

When towing I set my LR E tires on the truck to 60# Front, 65# Rear, trailer LR D tires are all set to 64#-65#. Have the TST TPMS on the trailer.

[B and B]

Truck is running 65 psi all around right now on E rated, I have no air bags, no squat, tows level. As far as the trailer currently at 65 psi always listening to max inflation camp here, i can let nitrogen out just can't add it at home was thinking of dropping to 60 cold to allow some expansion when hot .The trailer tracks much better than the defective Trail Distress slippers that were taken off. I would agree on E series tires not to mention overkill for the trailer as well the Rims not being beefy enough. As far as the weight police I am hitting the scales tomorrow when we leave. Looking forward to axle lift on the trailer at Goshen to take the extra weight off the back axle, can not drop the hitch any further or I will hitting the box when backing in at home or some Provincial Parks.

[MtnGuy]

Originally Posted by dcheatwood

I've had both with no issues.

Same here. Goodyear Marathons came on my current trailer, and except for the spare being "shaved" by the factory, they worked great until I replaced them because of age. So far, so good on the current Goodyear Marathons.

I installed Carlisles on my Trailrmanor in 2007, and had no problems with those, but the current owners had 1 blowout/flat last year.....but they were a about at the end of their life expectancy, and I have no idea how well the owners kept up tire pressure. I say blowout/flat because they were not running a TPMS, so the tire could have just been run flat for a while before being discovered, causing damage to their trailer.