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Old 01-31-2014, 09:48 PM   #11
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This is SO TRUE. My 5th wheel camper rides only slightly nose high and the leading axle carries 90% of the camper and the rear axle carries 110%.

I discovered this when after a 9,000 mile trip last year my leading axle tires showed "over pressure for weight" wear pattern and the rear axle tires showed "under pressure for weight" wear. They were properly inflated (I thought) for the maximum scaled weight on the camper's axles.
Can you tell me how the 2 axles carried 200 percent of the camper?

are you a believer of tailoring the tires pressure to the weight of the axle (tire) rather than inflating to indicated maximum pressure?

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Old 01-31-2014, 09:58 PM   #12
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Can you tell me how the 2 axles carried 200 percent of the camper?

are you a believer of tailoring the tires pressure to the weight of the axle (tire) rather than inflating to indicated maximum pressure?

Thanks, Bob
LOL - 100% front - 100% rear is what I meant if the total load was shared equally. So less on front and more on rear in my case.
Use 60-40 if it makes you feel better.

I did not before since I weighed the axles together in the past. In the future I will pay the extra buck to get separate axle weights.
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Old 01-31-2014, 10:01 PM   #13
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His front axle is carrying the bigger load, so he must be low in the front, not high.
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Old 01-31-2014, 10:18 PM   #14
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Sounds odd, Id say re- weigh somewhere else and re post results. Your camper shows a dry axle weight of about 6750 and that means you have added more than a ton to just the axles. Also the carry capacity is listed at just 1268 pounds so something is amiss. We weighed our unit a few times, loaded for a 2 week trip, dry and how we leave it off season. Our local moving company charges 10 bucks for all the positions you want. Im gonna say the snow was the issue, let us know when you re weigh
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Old 01-31-2014, 10:19 PM   #15
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I'm considering a reweigh at a different scales I though I'd run these clearer numbers as to whether or not I'm overweight.
Thank for you help and patience.
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If it's true that you had about 4" of snow on the camper's roof, that could change the weight considerably...especially if it's wet/heavy as opposed to powder.

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If it's true that you had about 4" of snow on the camper's roof, that could change the weight considerably...especially if it's wet/heavy as opposed to powder.

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I concur!
Ever lift a scoop shovel of wet heavy snow?

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I concur!
Ever lift a scoop shovel of wet heavy snow?

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Lets try this on for size - my trailer is supposed to be 8 feet wide and about 32 feet long.
Since it is a 5er, lets add 2 feet the length due to the hump, making the dimension 8ft X 34ft or 272 sq ft of area. Say there was 4" of snow then you would have 92 cubic feet of snow. A cubic foot of snow probably would be 3+/- gallons, with water weighing 8 (lets say 6.5 for compacted snow) the snow would weigh approximately 600#. increase it to 6" and you would approach the weighmaster estimated weighed - 1000 pounds. Food for thought!



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Old 02-06-2014, 10:10 AM   #20
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Using the numbers you provided:

Total camper weight = 18960 (total combined wt) - 8620 (truck alone) = 10340 lbs
GVWR for the camper is 9389 and therefore 951 lbs over.

Pin weight = 18960 (total combined wt) - 8620 (truck alone) - 8680 (trailer axle wt)
= 1660 lbs

Trailer axle weight of 8680...camper axle wt rating 8000...680 lbs over.

I'd have a tough time believing that the front and rear axle would be that different...may be some error there. You may want to repeat the entire process to confirm the numbers. (edit: without the snow on top)

The rim and tire load capacities are the least of your problems IMO.

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Dave (or anyone else);

4-6" snow was actually 12"+. Got trailer reweighed. 7700#. Have not had individual trailer axles weighed, but I suspect the difference in weight would be smaller with the estimated 1000# of snow off. Your thoughs if you would please.
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