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09-15-2016, 11:39 AM
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Senior Member
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TPMS, Aluminum Wheels & Steel Valve Stems
I'm in a market for a tire monitoring system for my trailer. Most TPMS manufacturers recommend steel valve stems for use with their products that use the stem mounted sensors. Looking online for steel stems some say that these can be very difficult to install on alloy rims. Looking at my wheels I can see there is very little clearance to get a socket on there. Has anyone installed metal stems on wheels such as these, and if so, was there any trouble doing so?
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09-15-2016, 12:03 PM
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The camper I have now came with metal stems but the two before that had rubber stems. I had 507 TST TPMS and I never had any trouble. My truck tires have rubber stems and I have the TST 507 on them and I have 85,000 miles on the truck and I have never had a problem. I started on this trip and I was checking the air in the Silverado and was missing one. I'll order a replacement when I get home
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09-15-2016, 12:05 PM
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You might be better off trying to find a system the uses the Ford type sensor. Ie one that is attached to the rim by a band around the center of the rim
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09-15-2016, 02:14 PM
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No way I like the TST 507
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09-16-2016, 01:04 PM
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Don
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: North West Florida
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Happily using the 507 non-flowthru system
After much research on this issue, I finally decided on the 507 non-flow thru system for my RV. I have rubber valve stems and have used it for several trips with no problems what so ever. The folks at Truck System Technologies worked with me and assured me that the non-flow thru sensors were perfect for rubber stems and would cause no problems. Just to assuage my fears, I purchased and installed a set of metal valve stem covers. They only cost 4 or 5 dollars for a set. Again, I have had no problems with air loss or any other problems with them. The flow-thru sensors would most likely require metal stems. I may look at that when I get new tires in a year or so. The TST 507 us an extremely good system. I love it. Happy Camping!
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09-16-2016, 02:19 PM
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Those wheels look similar to the wheels on our trailer. I used Haltec TV-575-HP stems on mine (ordered from Grainger). The nut is recessed but does not need all that much torque so you can tighten it with non-standard methods (tweezers or needle nose pliers for example).
There are also metal stems that insert from the outside and the nut is placed on the inside of the rim. example... Vs-8 - BlackJack Tire Repair
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09-16-2016, 02:34 PM
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I visited some tire shops today and they told me the pictured valve stem should work. It seems a little short but I was told it should be the same length as the rubber stem I have now. Now to order the TPMS. I think I will go with the TST 507 with cap sensors since many people have used it successfully.
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09-16-2016, 02:50 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2015
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*HERE* is about the best pricing I found, PLUS an extra year's warranty.
Scroll down and pick your system.
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09-16-2016, 04:30 PM
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That stem actually looks long to me, but I did intentionally search out the shortest stems I could find in an effort to keep the sensors from sticking out of the wheel too far.
I ordered my TST507 through infotechrvsolutions ($220 for 4 sensors). They were drop shipped directly from TST. Mine arrived without the installation tool. I emailed Infotech...they nearly instantly apologized and called TST who sent out some tools the same day. Great service from both companies. I chose to order from Infotech as they were slightly cheaper than the TST listed price. I have heard of people calling TST directly and getting price matching from them.
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09-16-2016, 06:50 PM
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I use them on rubber stems with no problems....so far
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09-16-2016, 06:59 PM
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Napa carries the stems that will fit your rims, I got mine from them and use the flow through sensor, weight is like a 1/8 oz more. You would curb your tire before hitting that sensor...
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09-16-2016, 08:07 PM
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I have used the STS 507 RV system on rubber stems for three years with no problems. I have the cap sensors. Just now replacing the batteries. I was told they last about a year, but I take mine off when in storage. No pressure, no power.
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09-16-2016, 09:15 PM
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RiderBloke
Join Date: Jan 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spudston
I visited some tire shops today and they told me the pictured valve stem should work. It seems a little short but I was told it should be the same length as the rubber stem I have now. Now to order the TPMS. I think I will go with the TST 507 with cap sensors since many people have used it successfully.
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I have recently put these on my 26RR with steel rims. They seem to be working well. The rubber stems allowed the sensors to flop around and they even left marks on the edge of the rim where they hit. Eventually that would turn into a disaster. They had done 5,500 miles like that but I thought that was stretching my luck. The TPMS works well but one is very slow to register each time I start the truck.
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09-16-2016, 10:48 PM
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Member
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09-16-2016, 11:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandy12345
After much research on this issue, I finally decided on the 507 non-flow thru system for my RV. I have rubber valve stems and have used it for several trips with no problems what so ever. The folks at Truck System Technologies worked with me and assured me that the non-flow thru sensors were perfect for rubber stems and would cause no problems. Just to assuage my fears, I purchased and installed a set of metal valve stem covers. They only cost 4 or 5 dollars for a set. Again, I have had no problems with air loss or any other problems with them. The flow-thru sensors would most likely require metal stems. I may look at that when I get new tires in a year or so. The TST 507 us an extremely good system. I love it. Happy Camping!
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100% agree. The 507 system is the one. I don't have metal valve stems, don't need them with the 507 system as long as you don't get the flow through sensors. Mine have the anti-theft jacket and even with those no metal valve stems are needed. I've been using the TST 507 system for several years and they've saved me many times.
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09-17-2016, 06:26 AM
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RiderBloke
Join Date: Jan 2014
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TPMS, Aluminum Wheels & Steel Valve Stems
The TST info says about the 507 sensors: "No, you do not need special valve stems, but you do need commonly available metal valve stems.
The added weight of the sensor on a rubber valve stem could cause problems that will be avoided by using metal valve stems."
Those suckers (which is what I have) wobble enormously.
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09-17-2016, 08:56 PM
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Some/many(?) alloy wheels are not suited for true metal, bolt-on valve stems. What my tire shop recommended, and I went with when I upgraded tires, are what they called "high pressure" snap-in (not bolt-in) stems. These have an all rubber grommet base with a brass stem that resists bending like an all rubber stem. They give me confidence and, so far, they are working well with my non-flow through 507s.
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09-24-2016, 11:43 PM
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I had America's tire install the stems pictured in post #7. They then balanced the wheels with the TST 507 cap sensors installed. The $52 for the job was worth it for peace of mind. Thanks for the responses everyone!
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