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Old 01-18-2015, 02:37 PM   #11
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Thank you all for your reply's.
I will try to respond to your questions,
- I have had 2 trucks with integrated controllers, and both could lock up the brakes on the trailer.
- Each time I hook-up the trailer, and while driving slowly on a gravel road, I get the trailer brakes to the point of lock-up. Then I reduce the controller gain until the brakes do not lock. I now know that I have max braking to the trailer. The gain setting will change with weight, loading and road conditions
-The trailer was brand new in July last year.
- Will check with the dealer re break-in procedure for the brakes, but they haven't mentioned anything as yet.
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Old 01-18-2015, 03:09 PM   #12
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If you have an integrated brake controller in your tow vehicle, you won't be able to lock up the trailer brakes since, among other things, it's designed to prevent that.
^^^ What he said. Ford's integrated controller at 15mph will not lock the brakes like many people expect them to, which is a process used to set an add on controller where you would then back off the gain a little to set it. The Ford controller takes speed into consideration and will not give full power at slow speeds. There is a service bulletin on the subject because of so many complaints. This is all based on normal use on Highway surfaces.
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Old 01-18-2015, 11:48 PM   #13
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^^^^ This explains a concern of mine I planned to research more this spring. Thank you!
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Old 01-24-2015, 10:10 AM   #14
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Greetings All,
Thanks for all the information provided during this post.
I have found a video detailing the set-up procedure for the Ford integrated brake controller, 2012 and later.
<http://ca.video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;_ylt=A2KIo9wArsNUMD4AGQwWFQx.;_ylu=X3oDMTByZ2 N0cmxpBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDdmlkBHZ0aWQDBGdwb3MDMg--?p=2014+ford+f250+brake+controller&vid=560c5f44cfc 4ef074bacdcd5e1594b5c&l=1%3A32&turl=http%3A%2F%2Ft s3.m>
There are several other videos which detail the set-up of after market controllers. Hope this information is useful.

Thanks again
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Old 01-24-2015, 12:11 PM   #15
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Why do you want them to lock up ???? I do not want mine to lock up ! Just want them to stop the trailer...... 10 -14000 plus lbs of trailer is alot of weight to have the tires lock up. I locked the brakes on an empty cargo trailer.....flat spotted the tires & had to replace them.....

Some brake controllers (such as my Tekonsha Primus IQ) have in their set-up directions to find the gain level at which the trailer brakes lock up when the lever is slid all the way to the left, and then to back off just enough to eliminate the lock-up. This provides maximum braking power when needed. It also means the setting will have to be modified to suit trailer load, and road/weather conditions. But it seems like a reasonable starting point.

If your controller's gain isn't set just shy of lockup point, you'll never get the benefit of full braking in a panic stop. If your brakes could stop you in 1000 feet when they're set just below lock-up, then any setting less than that would mean braking distance increases; 1200, 1500... etc.

ABS works in vehicles because it senses that lock-up point, and stays just below it. If ABS hadn't been invented, and instead auto manufacturers weakened their braking to the point that it becomes impossible to apply sufficient force to approach lock-up, the situation would be grim. Fortunately ABS has been invented for vehicles. But for trailers with electronic brakes/controllers, we have to calibrate to lock-up, and then back off just a touch.
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this is what I did, brought the brand new trailer home in 2012, during the test pull around before it came home I complained about the braking, went from a timed to a P2, went back pulled trailer home , still no effective brakes, went out and bought a P3, took back to dealer, they said all good, took back home still no effective brakes, put times back in which felt better, I pulled the hubs and replaced the seals with $15.00 each and I had leaks and only 500 miles on them, better brakes but no effective and no lock up at ~5mph as per the P2-3 directions. took back to dealer (idiots) and factory said all good.. finally replaced the wiring from the pin box back to the mags with MS acft wiring and now I can get whiplash if the setting is too high
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Did you try pulling the break away switch and seeing if the brakes lock up? Always good to test it anyways....Sherm
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Thank you all for your reply's.
I will try to respond to your questions,
- I have had 2 trucks with integrated controllers, and both could lock up the brakes on the trailer.
- Each time I hook-up the trailer, and while driving slowly on a gravel road, I get the trailer brakes to the point of lock-up. Then I reduce the controller gain until the brakes do not lock. I now know that I have max braking to the trailer. The gain setting will change with weight, loading and road conditions
-The trailer was brand new in July last year.
- Will check with the dealer re break-in procedure for the brakes, but they haven't mentioned anything as yet.
If you have the new brake shoes, you have to drive at 50 mph then use the controller only to slowly stop and then redo that 10 x's if not you will glaze the shoes and have a problem. The new shoes are alot more aggressive then the old. Not doing that will glaze them and you will have to replace them, That is by Lippert. Had mine put on by them in Goshen last year and they gave me a break in procedure.
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I have a 2015 Wildwood x-lite, same issue where the brakes just don't feel like they are slowing me down. If I grab my brake controller to slow down just the trailer I feel nothing. I am tempted to try adjusting the brake shoes, if they are glazed how can I tell? We bought this trailer from an RV show and was the display so the brakes easily had 50 miles on them prior to us taking ownership.
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Old 05-04-2015, 01:20 PM   #20
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Trailer brakes won't lock.

The trailer was also driven from the assembly point to a dealership which can be a long ways depending on place of origin. You need to find the problem and fix it. Have you adjusted the gain to the max and still feel nothing with manual trailer braking? If so you need a professional to look at it.


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