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Old 03-13-2012, 01:28 PM   #31
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Not all Marathons are made in China. The only way to tell where tires are made is to look at the tire codes.

My Marathons have a DoT code of MD (Alabama; US of A)

Here is how you tell:

DOT Codes

Note: ALL Maxxis are made in China.
There are some Pirelli's made in China as well.
I see there's more than one Chinese tire manufacturer then

Interesting list though, thanks for that Lou, I just checked our tires here in Portugal, we have German Goodyears, French Continentals and Chinese Hankooks, not sure what we have in Canada, will have to wait till April to check.
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Old 03-13-2012, 01:28 PM   #32
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Herk, when searching by that database, it doesn't take into account the tires that are "farmed out" by Goodyear (and other tire companies). It only lists the plants that Goodyear owns..........but not necessarily the plants that Goodyear pays to make tires for them, and put the Goodyear name on the tire.

All Goodyear tires don't necessarily come out of a Goodyear factory. This holds true for many brands. I know personally that Hankook Tire manufactures some BF Goodrich and Uniroyals, for Michelin.
Boy that is good to know,can we get our (Free) tire gauge from them instead of (Hankook? Youroo!!
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Old 03-13-2012, 01:33 PM   #33
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OK, I gotta chime in on this post concerning Chinese tire “quality”.

Soon after buying our Surveyor in Sept. 2008, I started taking the tires in for balancing, as well as getting metal stems installed for my TPMS. Some took ~4oz. of weight, but no big deal, as some of that could have been in the wheel. I took the spare for balancing, and the 1st place said it didn’t balance correctly, but they got it the best they could. I got a 2nd opinion from another shop, and they said they balancing that was done was about as good as it gets since the tire was out of round. So I took the tire to a Goodyear dealer. The counter man took the tire back, came back and told me that the tire was out of round, but they couldn’t adjust it because the tread was down to 5/32nds. Knowing that I had seen the new tire “paint strip” on the tire and I had never put this tire on the ground, we both viewed the tire and he showed me the 5/32nd measurement. I showed him the paint strip and new tire nobbies on the tread on the opposite side of the tire. The tread on that side measured in at 9/32nds. He called 1 of the installers over to look at the tire, and his comment was something on the line of “Oh yeah, the Chinese manufacturers had been known to ‘buff’ their tires when they came off of the line out of round”……I hope this guy got to keep his job after blurting that out. The counter man called Goodyear, and they denied the claim because of the 5/32nd measurement, even though he explained the situation. He told me he would check with the area Goodyear rep to see what could be done, but didn’t give me much hope. A few days later, the counter man called and said Goodyear had agreed to giving me a new tire………I think they were afraid of me going to the NTSB and BBB with this problem…….which I told the counter man “I guess that was my next step”. I had a little remorse about being “bought out” with a new tire, but notifying the NTSB was questionable, since the tire was probably not anymore dangerous than other Chinese tires…….other than shaking all of the screws out of my camper if I ever had to use it. And since they eventually made good on the tire, I really had no reason to go to the BBB.

I have no proof that the Chinese factory did the buffing on the tire, other than what the installer stated was alleged knowledge among the tire industry. This tire had gone through 3, maybe 4 companies before it got to me…..depending on whether Lippert or Forest River installs the tires. But since travel trailer tires are seldom balanced before it reaches the consumer, I seriously doubt that Lippert, Forest River, or the dealer would even know that was out of round. But……it is very suspicious that this tire ended up as a spare and not on the road. In thinking about that, I wonder if Goodyear offers these faulty tires to trailer manufacturers with a deep discount as “spares only” ?? Just speculating there.

And BTW, I did check the tire code, and it was manufactured in Weihai , China.

In all fairness, I will say that I have not yet had a blowout with either Carlisle or Goodyear trailer tires with about 12,000 miles of travel over the last 6 years with 2 different trailers. But when it comes to replacing my tires (probably this year), I am going to buy Canadian or USA made Goodyears if possible. For me, I just want to send a message, however small that is, that we need the jobs here in North America, and not across the Pacific. If enough people request North American made tires, maybe the big tire names will finally get the picture.

I will now get off of my soapbox.
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Old 03-13-2012, 02:38 PM   #34
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See, that is the thing. The only thing I am going by here is a few complaints about the Duro tires. I have nothing against the Chineese mfg. It is as I have previously stated, they build to any price point you want them to. For example the networks I designed and maintain are run solely with Cisco enterprise network equipment costing upward of 22k per 48 port switch. These switches are all made in China and they a beautiful thing to behold (us network people are impressed by the strangest things) So I have no reason to believe they cannot produce a quality tire product. Our Duro's over the last 2 years have been prefect, always within a couple degrees of each other and the pressure is always within a lb all around. I keep covers on them when the trailer sits at home so they do not get UV damaged and they are always on boards when sitting at home. Should I worry, I mean really should I? Probably not but it is something I always consider and try to weigh the cost vs the what if. Maybe i should just go with my initial gut feeling and install steel liners on top of the factory steel ones and call it a day for another year. Who knows, I still have time to decide. BTW our V-Lite has a GVWR of 8750 and the tires are rated at 2150 so x4 equals 8600 + the tongue weight of about 800 lbs so 9400lbs and in reality we probably run closer to 8300 to 8500 on the road anyway. That in my mind would give us a cushion of well over 800lbs safety margin tire wise.
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Old 03-13-2012, 03:29 PM   #35
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"That in my mind would give us a cushion of well over 800lbs safety margin tire wise."
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I didn't feel that a 10% "safety margin" was quite enough, and why I went with D-rated tires. The extra cost was minimal, but I have a huge safety margin now.
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I'm in need of 5 new 14" tires and am a loss as to what brand to purchase. Tires always seem to be a sore spot or should I say a highley debated subject weather its for cars, truck or RV's.
Anyway, I honistly don't know what to do here other than I would like to get away from an ST and go to LT because of highway speed restriction of the ST at 65. Is my thinking correct that an LT should bump my speeds up to 70 (for gaining momentum on the downhill run).
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Old 03-14-2012, 04:58 PM   #37
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I'm in need of 5 new 14" tires and am a loss as to what brand to purchase. Tires always seem to be a sore spot or should I say a highley debated subject weather its for cars, truck or RV's.
Anyway, I honistly don't know what to do here other than I would like to get away from an ST and go to LT because of highway speed restriction of the ST at 65. Is my thinking correct that an LT should bump my speeds up to 70 (for gaining momentum on the downhill run).
There is a lot more difference between an ST tire and an LT tire besides speed.
Here is some light reading:

RV Safety & Education Foundation

Understanding Trailer Tire Sizes


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File Type: pdf trailer_tire_service_guide.pdf (883.6 KB, 16 views)
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Old 03-15-2012, 11:31 AM   #38
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Put the baby to bed

Spent the last 3 days tracking down information on Maxxis tires.
Learned a LOT and I was sure I might be appologizing to Crocus.

Alas, it was not to be.

While the Administrative Offices of Maxxis International are located in Suwanee, GA, USA; none (as in not any) of their tires are made in the US.

This can be confirmed by anyone who would like to check by talking to them directly at 678-407-6700. (My contact was Shawn)

Countries of origin for Maxxis tires of ALL types (including ST) are Germany (surprise add), Taiwan, Canada (also surprise add), Mainland China, Japan, and Vietnam. Not one tire has ever been made in the USA.
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Old 03-15-2012, 12:22 PM   #39
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FYI:I was researching tires as well. Stopped in at our local Camping World and they were offering the Goodyear Marathons 225/75R15 Class D tires for $123 per tire including install and warranty. That seems to be a good deal to me.
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FYI:I was researching tires as well. Stopped in at our local Camping World and they were offering the Goodyear Marathons 225/75R15 Class D tires for $123 per tire including install and warranty. That seems to be a good deal to me.
Have to check my receipts, but it sounds right to me.
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