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Old 09-27-2016, 06:27 AM   #11
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I am praying for you too. You will get through this. Just take one step at a time. Once you have everything apart, you can determine if there was any damage done. Replacing the bearings and the race is not difficult at all. Be safe and make sure everything is supported properly. Also, be sure you jack up your trailer on the proper spot. I know you likely already know that, but I just wanted to make sure.


I will be awaiting to hear how it all goes.
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Old 09-27-2016, 07:20 AM   #12
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I just last month had the identical bearing failure. I too was fully prepared for a new axle, until I removed it. One difference between your photo and mine is, yours looks like it was super heated, (due to color of wheel and dryness ) meaning possibly driven longer before you noticed. I too did not see mine till I pulled in my driveway. it was daytime, and I had done a routine digital temp check about 100 miles previous at a rest stop. I do this at every pit stop with a hand held digital temp gun from Harbor Freight. All four hubs were good, only 100 miles previous!!
My grease was much heavier on the wheel, and grease was spewing out of the hub. I had the same looking off center spindle/drum indicating an absent and destroyed outer bearing. Mine also retained the castle nut, cotter pin, and retainer washer.
I safely jacked it(I felt better leaving attached to TV) removed all, cleaned with solvent to inspect. Here's what I found:
Both inner and outer bearings were destroyed, roller bearings were spewing around, roller bearing cages were in pieces leading to minor gouging of spindle. The good news was that the bearings themselves did not super heat or destroy the spindle. They were not welded on, I used a simple wheel puller to remove them fro the spindle. After thorough cleaning, I needed some light Emory "dressing" where the bearings ride. The area between the two bearings suffered gouging from the roller bearings tossing around. But that damage I'm told by RV mechanic is of no significance. I replaced all four bearings races and seals with American Made ask for Timpken, or National from a local auto parts store. They simply read the numbers off the bearings. Original 2012 bearings were stamped made in China. After completion, I took 100 mile trip (200 rt). I was pretty gun shy, and had a pretty good "pucker factor". I stopped total 6x (about every 30 miles) doing 60 mph and recorded all four wheels. I was amazed and very happy to see all four running about 110 degrees, and the coolest one ironically was the damaged one!! So keep the faith, keep praying, Jack safely and report back. Sorry long winded, but I m still on cloud nine having been through this just two weeks ago. By the way my temp gun I read 300 when it was smoking in my driveway.


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Old 09-28-2016, 06:19 AM   #13
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All bearings and wheels cool to the touch after driving several hundred miles that day in Texas heat; then bang. Heavy smoke from driver side rear wheel.

Bad day - Herk

Got great gas mileage back to town though ...

Had towing on my truck and camper policy so USAA covered the tow.
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Old 09-28-2016, 08:12 PM   #14
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Ok... finally got a break in the rain and got it Jack up and apart... I think it's border line but let me get everyone's opinions... I have attached pictures. It's not horrible but I can feel lil impression on the mark on the bottom closest to the end... let me know y'all thoughts... I really have appriecated everyone's kind words. This camper has been great for our family especially our son but as a contractor and the economy we have been hurting money wise badly. Main reason we bought used, it's a 2007 grand surveyor 240bh, but I know when buying used you always risk getting other people's problems. Praying this ain't going to be too bad but I want to make it right so it's safe for my family.
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Old 09-28-2016, 11:14 PM   #15
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My immediate opinion is that spindle is junk. The outer bearing surface is worn and uneven. The inner bearing surface doesn't look much better... But get some emory paper and clean it up and then wash it...it will look better. You need to get new hub(or at least figure out the correct inner race bore. Get a caliper($10 harbor freight) and take measurements. I think .005" slack would be about right. Don't be surprised if it isn't round. JMO


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Old 09-28-2016, 11:36 PM   #16
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The axle hub area where the "Rear Grease Seal" locates/Runs,is gone! The Seal will Not retain grease from getting into the brake shoe area! Proper fix is New Axle and hub! Youroo!!
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Old 09-29-2016, 07:18 AM   #17
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The axle hub area where the "Rear Grease Seal" locates/Runs,is gone! The Seal will Not retain grease from getting into the brake shoe area! Proper fix is New Axle and hub! Youroo!!
Hard to tell from the photo if that is a seal "rub" or the seal surface is bad.

He needs to clean the spindle and examine that surface carefully. If it is indeed damaged you are correct. As bad as mine looked, we got several thousand miles on it and was still going strong when the other torsion axle suspension went due to a road hazard. We replaced both at the same time.
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Old 09-29-2016, 08:14 AM   #18
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Chiggers, if you want a new axel there is at least two RV Surplus stores in the Goshen and Elkhart Indiana area. I saw new 7K axels complete with brakes and springs there for very little, don't remember the actual price but you can call them and ask about shipping or just go pick it up. good luck
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Old 09-29-2016, 10:55 AM   #19
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I have Al-Ko U-35 tension axles... does anyone know if I just replace one axle if I have to go with the exact same axle from Al-Ko? Or can I get one from dexter which is more readily available in my area here in Virginia.
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Looks pretty bad...
I once had damage to the seal area, due to a bearing failure, that I used a redi-sleeve to repair. The sleeve's intended use was for a harmonic balancer. I had Napa match it to my seal and they sold me 3 different widths and used the one that best fit the depth. Had many years of use after.
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