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Old 10-02-2016, 01:07 PM   #31
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I've gone through the process of replacing just the spindle on an AL-KO torsion axle. It was on an enclosed utility trailer. It's not the easiest of tasks.

First, remove the axle from the trailer. You're going to be grinding some welds out, so get it to where the sparks won't matter.

Before you do anything else, measure how far the brake mounting plate is from the arm. You'll need that later.

The axle is welded to the torsion arm in two places, inside the arm, and outside. Those welds have to be ground out to remove the spindle from the arm. First, cut off the brake mounting flange to allow access to the outer weld.

Once you get the spindle out, you are unfortunately going to find that AL-KO drilled a larger hole in the arm than the outside diameter of the spindle. Actually, I believe they cut that hole out with a plasma cutter, as it's not really smooth inside. The arm is one inch thick steel.

This leaves you with a BIG problem: Alignment of the new spindle before welding. Finished toe alignment is more important than camber, but both should be VERY close to zero when finished.

I'll not go into detail here how I was able to align the new one, but I'll be happy to elaborate if you decide to go down this path and encounter this problem.

The trailer has subsequently traveled over 12,000 miles in the three years since the repair. There is no unusual tire wear at all, as I was able to get it very close.

Yes, it's cheaper to just buy a #84 spindle (with brake flange), but it's a LOT more work. I'm retired, can weld, and have have the time to spare. I was doing it on-the-cheap to save an animal rescue some money, but wouldn't do it again.

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Old 10-02-2016, 01:23 PM   #32
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Also... Where do people recommend getting parts from? I am looking for best pricing I can get from dealer with good service. I have used Etrailer in the past but I don't think they deal in Al-KO axles.

This camper has been a blessing except for this issue (Well there are many others but hey that's a used item for you) as my son is disabled and now with this camper we can afford and have the ability to travel more with him. I would hate to have it sitting out of commission for awhile if this turns out to be very expense. Even tho it sitting may not be an option due to its not at my property right now / I am afraid to move it any further in its current condition. Sorry for the rant, very frustrating yesterday evening (Which added another fun problem where the fitting that broken the day before for the water line into the toilet which flooded our rv bathroom, luckily we were in the camper and got it cut off quickly and cleaned up off the floor.)

Ill let everyone know what I find. I may need to share some pictures of the spindle to get your opinions if its ruined or not. Thanks everyone
Google AL-KO they still are in Business I purchased 4 complete sets for like 45.00 bucks. Then get a double lip seals at napa for them. They use to sell Timex bearings on ebay USA made, but if you buy them at Napa they will be made in China like everything else.... Take a good look at the spindles and make sure there not mared. Also while at Napa or anywhere get some good grease like Lukas Red and Tacky with a drop point of 440 degrees. You just have to love these stealers, sorry meant dealers...
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Old 10-02-2016, 01:41 PM   #33
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They use to sell Timex bearings on ebay USA made, but if you buy them at Napa they will be made in China like everything else.
I suspect your auto-correct doesn't have the word Timken.

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Old 10-02-2016, 01:52 PM   #34
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My trailer axle does not exist !

2011 Rockwood Signature Ultralite 8244 S . 5th wheel. Bought new from a Forest River dealer.

I had the rear passenger bearing go last year. They were replaced with the bearing for the 40 U torsion axle. This year the same bearing went again. This time the spindle got wrecked. A quick look by the RV repair shop and, yeah, quick easy repair. New spindle, hub, brakes etc.. Next day I get a call from the repair shop and am told the spindle is welded into the swing arm and the whole axle needs to be replaced. Then another call and I am told that axle does not exist. The data label reads 40 U , 3,500 pound AL-KO axle. Well 40 means 4,000 pounds, not 3,500. A call to AL-KO says they never manufactured an axle with those numbers. Well, there it is, on my data plate. RV shop says the spindles are 4000 pound, but the rest of the axle is 3500 pounds. I am having new torsion axles made at this moment that will be 4000 pound at a cost of $3,000 Canadian. Tried to go leaf but the attachment to the frame is to short.

Waiting for a reply from Forest River to find out what is going on. To be honest I am not even expecting an answer. 5 years old, 3 years out of warranty, not our problem.
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I suspect your auto-correct doesn't have the word Timken.

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Seems you got the point, Thanks for the correction, didn't know this was an spanglish class.. I can tell you have time to spare, well your welcome to come over to my house and help me any time you are bored.
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2011 Rockwood Signature Ultralite 8244 S . 5th wheel. Bought new from a Forest River dealer.

I had the rear passenger bearing go last year. They were replaced with the bearing for the 40 U torsion axle. This year the same bearing went again. This time the spindle got wrecked. A quick look by the RV repair shop and, yeah, quick easy repair. New spindle, hub, brakes etc.. Next day I get a call from the repair shop and am told the spindle is welded into the swing arm and the whole axle needs to be replaced. Then another call and I am told that axle does not exist. The data label reads 40 U , 3,500 pound AL-KO axle. Well 40 means 4,000 pounds, not 3,500. A call to AL-KO says they never manufactured an axle with those numbers. Well, there it is, on my data plate. RV shop says the spindles are 4000 pound, but the rest of the axle is 3500 pounds. I am having new torsion axles made at this moment that will be 4000 pound at a cost of $3,000 Canadian. Tried to go leaf but the attachment to the frame is to short.

Waiting for a reply from Forest River to find out what is going on. To be honest I am not even expecting an answer. 5 years old, 3 years out of warranty, not our problem.
They replaced these last year at Goshen,the unit is a 2010! Youroo!!
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