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Old 03-03-2015, 06:32 AM   #81
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Alko double lip seal number should be 568861
That's the alko number.
Thanks Turbs, I will go to Napa and get 4 on order today, Like to get the liquid grease out and put in some high temp 400 degree Lukas Red.
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Old 03-03-2015, 08:17 AM   #82
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For the 4000# axles

National # 473336 or SKF 17144
OD 2.561 Shaft 1.719 OD

Timken Bearing Sets:
Outer: Timken Set 6 (LM67048 LM67010)Bearing Cone/Cup Set
Inner: Timken Set 17 (L68149/L68111) Cup/Cone Bearing set
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Old 03-03-2015, 08:33 AM   #83
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Al-Ko 4/4.4 K axle
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Old 03-03-2015, 10:05 AM   #84
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well now I'm confused the parts sheets say's that the rear seal is doubled lip already? I always thought they were single and people recommended to order double lip at Napa?
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Old 03-03-2015, 10:14 AM   #85
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well now I'm confused the parts sheets say's that the rear seal is doubled lip already? I always thought they were single and people recommended to order double lip at Napa?
Glen,you have to remember Whos Lips were telling you this! Youroo!!
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Glen,you have to remember Whos Lips were telling you this! Youroo!!
Well said.....
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E-Z LUBE - What is the E-Z Lube option?
The E-Z Lube option was designed specifically for the marine application where the axles are constantly being immersed in water. This feature provides a convenient method for purging the water from the hub cavity without having to pull the hub every time. The hubs should be removed every 12 months or 12,000 miles to inspect the bearings and it is imperative to replace the seal at this time to assure that the grease does not leak out the back onto the brake linings rendering the brakes non-functional.

per dexter off their website...
the feature is ithe axle is it not?
As I stated the axles on the trailers with the electric brake option should not be used for water applications. I understand when companies like Dexter develop these for Marine units I am glad they decided to use these for this application not arguing with you just saying they can and will use them for other systems because they work if they are lubricated like they are supposed to then they will work fine. but if you grease them improperly then they will cause issues. I always take mine apart when I check them for wear etc. But you can grease them by lifting wheel off the ground and slowly roll the wheel as you slowly pump grease into them and you shouldn't blow out the rear seal. Most people just try to pump grease into them and with a hand held grease gun you can achieve about 10,000 pounds of pressure with that much yes you will blow any seal out.
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ok, so I get it. folks are running USA made seals and bearing sets, filling the hubs with no seal blowouts. Is anyone running beyond the 12,000 mile service interval with success?
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I was hoping someone would post up they were able to get extended range between service intervals with this modified plan but no one has. Having had customers achieving 4 years and 16000 miles, though not advised, on a traditional bearing pack, I personally dont feel the extra effort is worth it. I can see where you'll never have to worry about a dry bearing though and that has to be reassuring.
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For the 4000# axles

National # 473336 or SKF 17144
OD 2.561 Shaft 1.719 OD

Timken Bearing Sets:
Outer: Timken Set 6 (LM67048 LM67010)Bearing Cone/Cup Set
Inner: Timken Set 17 (L68149/L68111) Cup/Cone Bearing set
available on ebay. US made
So after tearing mine apart, the outer bearing set is a Timken set 4, (L44649 & L44610)Cup & Cone Set NOT the Timken set 6. So, the sheet put out by Turbs does NOT apply to my trailer and I have doubts if it applies to Glenn's.

Picture shows the good quality of the cone. Note the concentricity of the roller cage. Thank you NO as to them being quality.
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I Have Dexter axles so the sheet does not fit my axle for sure. I barely have 5,000 miles on mine. I may pull the wheels this spring to check things out.
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I have bearing buddies on camper and boat.My boat is used in salt water and is taken out frequently. (I'm a charter captain) I grease them frequently,and gently to force old grease out. They were on for 8 years when I lifted boat trailer and saw my bearings were a little loose. Decided to take caps off and check/tighten bearings. Bearings looked brand new...no marks of any kind....I do hand pack before reinstalling.
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I have bearing buddies on camper and boat.My boat is used in salt water and is taken out frequently. (I'm a charter captain) I grease them frequently,and gently to force old grease out. They were on for 8 years when I lifted boat trailer and saw my bearings were a little loose. Decided to take caps off and check/tighten bearings. Bearings looked brand new...no marks of any kind....[q]I do hand pack before reinstalling.[/q]
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BB on axles without brakes are great, if a seal goes no harm, no foul, but on axles with brakes, a blown/leaking seal can be disastrous.
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When I was at the rally they replaced all my hubs and breaks, with a newer aggressive break pads and a bigger magnate. Asked him about the bearings he said 5000 miles or every year. Also said to use 500 degree grease. Asked about timkin , he said they are also made overseas and that these bearings will last just as long. Also said that back seals were ready to blow. Said that even through they have the fitting, do it by hand and do not over fill them. I asked if they fill them at the factory he said no they come pre filled by the Hub people not lippart. I asked him if he was going to add grease and he said no there is plenty in there, only add grease when I repack them. Also got a text from his boss at lippert explaining it to me.
Well, I just got the overseas made Timken outer brgs.
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Got the SKF overseas made seals today from a John Deere dealer of all places.
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Old Coot why do you say the seals are over-seas, states CR 17144 USA on seal?
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Old Coot why do you say the seals are over-seas, states CR 17144 USA on seal?
He is just screwing with me, I got these seals from ALKO. They do look different. these are made in China..
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He is just screwing with me, I got these seals from ALKO. They do look different. these are made in China..
Then you can mess with him because top left seal in his pic is different OD ( outside diameter)
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Then you can mess with him because top left seal in his pic is different OD ( outside diameter)
You're right, it's the same OD, different ID and the wrong part no. I will return it. Damn good catch
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