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03-12-2015, 03:24 PM
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Boxed wrong?
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03-12-2015, 03:24 PM
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Then you can mess with him because top left seal in his pic is different OD ( outside diameter)
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You are right I didn't notice that, Maybe they have a different tolerance in USA made stuff...... I can't believe the Old Man missed that. His eyes are starting to go at 80.
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03-12-2015, 03:32 PM
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Boxed wrong?
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No, all bagged with a 17144 tag #. Would have eventually caught it when it didn't fit the seal driver.
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03-12-2015, 03:37 PM
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Been there ,done that, got the t-shirt
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03-13-2015, 02:25 PM
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Hey Glenn, got my overseas Timken inner brgs. Now I can start the messy, greasy process. HATE this job!
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03-13-2015, 02:43 PM
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Hey Glenn, got my overseas Timken inner brgs. Now I can start the messy, greasy process. HATE this job!
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How many miles do you have on the bearings in there now? Must be a bunch. I was hoping to go down there so we can do them both together. I can do the grease bearing work, but you have to pull the wheel. I used to hand pack them all the time. And that was before they came out with the sissy gloves. You need to feel that grease being packed in can't do that with them dam gloves. Good luck if you need help yell, I'm just 2 hours away. You probably done it 100 times already...... You probably repacked them before every race in your old day's. I'm not even going to ask where you got them from.
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03-13-2015, 04:38 PM
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How many miles do you have on the bearings in there now? Must be a bunch. I was hoping to go down there so we can do them both together. I can do the grease bearing work, but you have to pull the wheel. I used to hand pack them all the time. And that was before they came out with the sissy gloves. You need to feel that grease being packed in can't do that with them dam gloves. Good luck if you need help yell, I'm just 2 hours away. You probably done it 100 times already...... You probably repacked them before every race in your old day's. I'm not even going to ask where you got them from.
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Got one finished today, I may get one tomorrow depending on the weather. I don't like driving the old cups out and cleaning the hub even with a parts cleaner it is not a fun job. I did get all the cones packed. May have to go get more grease to fill the cavities tho', I only have 3 tubes left. I have to go get more brake cleaning spray anyway.
As to how many miles on the old bearings, whatever is on the trailer, swag would be around 25,000±.
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03-13-2015, 08:29 PM
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Yea, it's a PITA I agree with that. When you pump the extra grease in do you watch the back seal, and how did they fit? Do you think they will leak on you? Did you find any grease on your brake drums or did the old one hold? Just 3 to go. Maybe not tomorrow being they are predicting rain. any problem with the shoe linings?....One thing I do admire is that you keep that wagon in good shape....
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03-13-2015, 08:36 PM
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Yea, it's a PITA I agree with that. When you pump the extra grease in do you watch the back seal, and how did they fit? Do you think they will leak on you? Did you find any grease on your brake drums or did the old one hold? Just 3 to go. Maybe not tomorrow being they are predicting rain. any problem with the shoe linings?....One thing I do admire is that you keep that wagon in good shape....
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You can't see the seal. Never had grease on the brakes and why would they leak? They are designed not to leak.
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03-14-2015, 01:12 PM
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Well, 2 down and 2 to go, damn I hate this job!
Oh, BTW have I mentioned how much I hate messing with cleaning/replacing cups & cones?
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03-15-2015, 08:36 AM
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Oh my. Nashville should be fun with stories of grease and offshore bearings!!!
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03-15-2015, 08:42 AM
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Oh my. Nashville should be fun with stories of grease and offshore bearings!!!
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Only if one bites the dust on the way.
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03-15-2015, 02:10 PM
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HOORAY, finally got all 4 of them done. Replaced all 4 inner cups, cones, seals, outer cups, cones, cleaned everything and only used 2 tubes of Lucas Red "N" Tacky grease. Hopefully this is the last time I'll have to mess with that dirty job. Lug nuts torqued to 110 lb/ft and hub caps left off for re-torqueing after 50 & 100 miles on the next trip.
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03-16-2015, 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by OldCoot
HOORAY, finally got all 4 of them done. Replaced all 4 inner cups, cones, seals, outer cups, cones, cleaned everything and only used 2 tubes of Lucas Red "N" Tacky grease. Hopefully this is the last time I'll have to mess with that dirty job. Lug nuts torqued to 110 lb/ft and hub caps left off for re-torqueing after 50 & 100 miles on the next trip.
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Great glad to hear that you are done with the job, Well Alko sent all my bearings (4 sets) and rear seals cost 45.00 bucks. I should have gotten a few studs and lug nuts also to carry for an emergency, my reason so I won't get stuck someplace in the boonies waiting a week or 2 for parts. The parts list shows 1 size of studs for all there wheels no matter if they are 7" hubs or 12" hubs. The part I do not understand is that they call for 1/2"-20x1.8 long Knurl or short Knurl.
1) what is the Knurl ?
2) Parts list shows both
3) do you need to order both or just short or long
As anyone can tell I do not turn wrenches, except in an emergency. But it is good Idea I think to carry these parts and the Road Service could install if needed if I had the parts. So my question is what is meant by the word Knurl? Please educate me on this...Thanks in advance...
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03-16-2015, 06:38 AM
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To me, a knurl is a cross hatch pattern used for a grip.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knurling
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03-16-2015, 07:19 AM
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Different length knurl would be for different thickness of hub/rotor/drum...
Wheel stud - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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03-16-2015, 08:57 AM
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... The part I do not understand is that they call for 1/2"-20x1.8 long Knurl or short Knurl.
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Did you get the cups and cones or just the cones? I think the short knurl would be what you want as the studs are recessed in the hub so the magnets don't hit them.
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03-16-2015, 09:14 AM
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True,but also used to retain like in this application or for engine pistons to retain lube or reduce piston to bore slap! Old school! Youroo!!
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03-16-2015, 09:20 AM
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To Acadianbob. When you pump all that new grease into your hubs where dose all the old grease go?
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03-16-2015, 09:22 AM
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True,but also used to retain like in this application or for engine pistons to retain lube or reduce piston to bore slap! Old school! Youroo!!
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And valve guides to reduce clearance and allow better oiling of the valves. Old school also. (Plus it's cheaper than new guides. Lol)
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