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Old 04-19-2014, 08:15 PM   #1
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Wmtire ...

This may be a good question for you,but anyone is free to jump in also.

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Reading on another RV forum that the owner of a FW brought a LT tire into a Walmart in GA for a repair. The Walmart refused to repair it saying it was against the law to repair LT tires.

The owner then took the tire to a Sears and they repaired it without citing any law forbidding repairing LT tires.

What's your take on this?
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Old 04-19-2014, 08:22 PM   #2
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It is illegal to plug some tires so this may be what he asked for, just a thought!
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Old 04-19-2014, 08:24 PM   #3
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I have had LT e rated tires repaired many times, as long as the hole is not in the side wall, but the patch has to be on the inside and then plugged. But i take mine to a local very very small used tire shop and he does not even have a spin balancer, just a bubble balancer.
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It is illegal to plug some tires so this may be what he asked for, just a thought!
Seems mixed by states. Some posters said that's illegal to repair trailer tires and others say they never heard of any such law.

One guy in Ohio said he had the same experience (didn't say it was Walmart) and another guy in Ohio said he had a "trailer tire" repaired by the same chain with no problem.

The OP said the tire had a nail puncture.
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Old 04-19-2014, 09:23 PM   #5
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I've had dozens of trailer and Lt truck tires patched over the years. I won't let anybody plug them, unless its an emergency or on the farm repair, as ive always had plugs start leaking within a month.
Of course no sidewall patches, I dont think they would stay with the sidewall flex anyway, have plugged a couple trailer tires that were on the corner and patch questionable, on my own on equipment trailers
Your good for fixin' 'em here in OK!

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I've had dozens of trailer and Lt truck tires patched over the years. I won't let anybody plug them, unless its an emergency or on the farm repair, as ive always had plugs start leaking within a month.
Of course no sidewall patches, I dont think they would stay with the sidewall flex anyway, have plugged a couple trailer tires that were on the corner and patch questionable, on my own on equipment trailers
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The thing that caught my attention and prompted me to start this thread was him mentioning that Walmart cited a law (at least a GA law) that prohibited them from repairing a LT tire.

I can understand and appreciate any business decision or policy to do or not do anything they don't want to - but the law thing is what I was really asking about.
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This may be a good question for you,but anyone is free to jump in also.

The question is:

Reading on another RV forum that the owner of a FW brought a LT tire into a Walmart in GA for a repair. The Walmart refused to repair it saying it was against the law to repair LT tires.

The owner then took the tire to a Sears and they repaired it without citing any law forbidding repairing LT tires.

What's your take on this?
I actually encounter this fairly frequently, and have even caught a former manager of mine stating something along similar lines.

There are actual specific laws where some things are concerned..... and then there is liability laws, which aren't as specific, but are generally broad in what constitutes liability from a business standpoint.

Many people say the term 'illegal', when they really should state it's a liability issue.

Most tire shops conform to tire repair procedures outlined by the Rubber Manufacturers Association (RMA). The RMA, as the name states, is made up by members of many tire manufacturers, etc. States can also have lawful procedures that must be adhered to......as well as the National Highway Traffic Safety Association.(NHTSA)

The RMA tire repair procedures can be found on the internet, and here:

Tire Repair

You will encounter tire people/shops that don't necessarily have the best trained or informed technicians. This is unfortunately an all too common occurance in my business.

They may have different repair policies than other tire shops... and it may be because they are ignorant to how to do it correct, don't want to do it and would rather sell a tire (commission sales), don't want the liability that it may entail, are not allowed to do it because of a previous liability/legal problem.

It's really hard for me to access the total situation, since I don't know the full details. I can say from many previous experiences, that customers will try to get you to do all kind of illegal (or liable) things to save themselves money. I have PO'd many a person, because I wouldn't help them commit suicide or kill other people with their tire problems.

I always take the position that it may be my daughter who is the one they crash into when their improper tire goes out and they lose control of their vehicle. They also will conveniently lose any memory of telling you to do it wrong, when they are facing lawsuits or damages. It is ALWAYS the tire professional fault if something goes wrong that can be traced back to them.......cause they are just that, the professional who should know better.

We learned at a tire seminar to NEVER get a customer to sign a waiver form, for a procedure that shouldn't be done. This is basically putting it in writing that the tire professional knew it shouldn't be done, and did it anyway. Waivers are signing your definite liability for a tire shop.

As I said, what some tire techs may say is "illegal', is really in actuality a "legal liability" thing.....and is just worded wrong.

You will find different tire shops, will do different things. They all should adhere to RMA tire repair guidelines, but this is not the case. Any tire shop that will insert a "plug" into a tire from the outside....is definitely one to stay way from. If they don't dismount the tire to observe the damage that the tire may possibly have on the inside, they are not your friend...and may even kill you.

We had a woman this morning who came into the shop to get a tire, because she had it plugged the other day and didn't feel good about it. When we dismounted it, it was shredded on the inside from where she had driven it low/flat. Her guardian angel was looking out for her and her child, and she liked to have passed out when we showed it to her. We still don't know why it hadn't exploded. You can only see this kind of damage when a tire is dismounted, which you should ALWAYS have done when repairing ANY tire. I cannot stress this enough.
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Old 04-19-2014, 10:02 PM   #8
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Wntire - Thanks for your knowledgeable reply. I definitely learned somethings about tires and the repair of them that I didn't know before.

I am just guessing that your 7th paragraph ( wanting to get the commission,etc.) pretty well sums it up for a lot of tire stores.

Question - if a tire store or chain is a member of the RMA, are they required to or can they display a piece of paper on the wall stating such? Might be something to look for next time.
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B, thats what I meant. There isn't a law in oklahoma. I work in a dealership that fixes them, and I would have heard about it if there was a law. Besides 2 of my buddys having tire shops.

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Old 04-19-2014, 10:10 PM   #10
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B, thats what I meant. There isn't a law in oklahoma. I work in a dealership that fixes them, and I would have heard about it if there was a law. Besides 2 of my buddys having tire shops.

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Yep - that's what I'm seeing here. Thanks to all for their input.
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