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Old 03-12-2014, 07:09 PM   #11
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So any thoughts on an arctic fox?
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Old 03-12-2014, 07:21 PM   #12
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Dual pane windows help, but don't make a unit 4 season. Look for the highest R values in roof, walls, and floor you can find. Look for heated underbellly and heated tanks too.
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Old 03-12-2014, 07:53 PM   #13
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So any thoughts on an arctic fox?

Arctic fox claims to be a true 4 season RV but it's r values seem to be less than the cardinal. I am not a construction expert but there may be additional features within the walls besides insulation that help to retain temp and keep cold out.
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Old 03-12-2014, 08:27 PM   #14
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Boy, hearing some people say Artic Fox is the way to go, some people say it isn't a four season trailer. Trying to do more research to see which side I am on. Some people saying Cardinal has higher r values than Artic Fox. Hmm...
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Old 03-12-2014, 08:28 PM   #15
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out west here, Arctic Fox is well known as a legitimate 4-season rig.
you may also want to check out the other Northwoods division, Outdoors RV.
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Sorry that's an ice fishing shack as represented by holes in the floor. Not a camper and definitely not 4 season. No toilet, no water connections, no holding tanks and the list goes on. Strictly an ice fisherman paradise.
i was only pointing out that it was the only true cold winter RV that FR makes.
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Arctic fox claims to be a true 4 season RV but it's r values seem to be less than the cardinal. I am not a construction expert but there may be additional features within the walls besides insulation that help to retain temp and keep cold out.
I'm not sure where you are getting your info from the FR Cardinal is R7 insulation compared to R18 with the Fox. Plus check the roof const. and floor and walls, windows and the rest. FR doesn't even come close. As I said before FR only makes a true 3 season line, exception is the MH. So the insulation alone should give you a hint. Plus being in Minn. for a winter you would be throwing a 100.000 grand away and be freezing....
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Old 03-12-2014, 08:41 PM   #18
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Here are the r values of cardinal. I haven't seen any much higher but maybe mobile suite and not sure about trilogy.Click image for larger version

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I'm not sure where you are getting your info from the FR Cardinal is R7 insulation compared to R18 with the Fox. Plus check the roof const. and floor and walls, windows and the rest. FR doesn't even come close. As I said before FR only makes a true 3 season line, exception is the MH. So the insulation alone should give you a hint. Plus being in Minn. for a winter you would be throwing a 100.000 grand away and be freezing....

My info comes off the brochure cause I just looked at them Saturday and we do cold weather camping r-38 all the way around. Where you get your info from???
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Old 03-12-2014, 10:15 PM   #20
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R value

An RV salesman told me that R value is only as good as the lowest R value in an RV. Based on the snapshot above of the brochure that would be the sidewalls = R9.

As a Minnesotan I'm not sure why you would contemplate living in an RV here in the winter, especially given the nasty winter we are coming out of. All that aside it's my understanding that the Hinckley Casino has a few RV campsites that are referred to as year round. In fact there is a travel trailer there that I heard is lived in year round. It has skirting and larger Lp tanks. Plus the concrete pad is supposedly heated. I don't know if additional insulation was added on the interior nor whether they lived in it this winter.

None if this is factual. Just based on what I was told/heard. Best of luck.

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