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Old 03-15-2015, 12:27 PM   #31
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Sorry that you are having problems with Your Cardinal. I can say usually the moderators will only remove a post for certain issues like politics, or if the post is going way off topic or negative to other posters, but not usually to being negative to their unit or Forest River unless just bashing to bash........ most here are trying to help, but with any forum sometimes you have to have a thick skin.......

Back to the topic it sounds like some of the issues are your dealer. Maybe you will have someone on here that can get you directly in touch with a Cardinal Warranty Rep. Several on here have had their units taken back to the factory for repair. I wish that I could be of more help, Good Luck....



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Old 03-15-2015, 12:49 PM   #32
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Well, as I've said on these forums before, my unit must have been built on a Wednesday. I've not had any major problems, and I have to admit that I caused the minor ones. From what I read here, I've been lucky, twice. My daughter and son-in-law still have our first TT and it's still trouble-free as well. My next RV will be made by Grand Design. I have looked at these units several times and I may be being naive, but they sure look like they are made better than anything else I've looked at... Best of luck getting your problems resolved.

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Old 03-15-2015, 03:27 PM   #33
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Cardinals not the quality they were, apparently

I've owned two Cardinals. They were at one time the top of the line for Forest River. The first one came with Chinese tires that three blew out on one trip. The second one has had its issues, too. Admittedly, I bought them about three years old (don't want to suck up that heavy depreciation like I did on a previous fifth wheel).

I am currently in the process of looking for another fifth wheel and was thinking (possibly) about another Cardinal. My first two choices, though, would be a Heartland Big Horn or Landmark and then an Arctic Fox. Thanks for the update on the quality control

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This likely wont be posted but I will try. I was just wondering how many people out there have had noting but problems with their unit?
We bought our 2015 Cardinal a few months ago and have have nothing but issue after issue. So far the stove is being replaced, the convection oven is being replaced, the refrigerator doors have been replaced. When we got the unit they had actually duct taped the ceiling above the washer and dryer in place not nailed or screwed. When they installed the washer they dented the front. The water filter keeps blowing the housing off (there is a pressure regulator on the hose). The dining room table has been replaced. The fold up dining room chairs when set on fell completely apart. The oven vents into the living area so you can't breath if something gets spilled when cooking. One wall light has gone out and had to have the switch replaced. I guess I'm just not understanding how you can spend so much money on something like this and get such junk.
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Old 03-15-2015, 05:22 PM   #34
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As I have received several PM's from the site staff indicating they did not delete message I posted I have cut and pasted the message.

Howdy Spencer, the site team has deleted your post concerning the talk of lawsuits.

Once you approach that point, there is nothing anyone in these forums can do to help you. It's in the hands of the legal system.

As per our guidelines:

Dealer/Vendor and Customer Disputes: This forum is not intended to be a mechanism for people to vent frustrations about vendors or sales from private parties. Please settle your differences with sellers, manufacturers and dealers through the long-established legal or arbitration systems or the Better Business Bureau but not through our community.

If you have never been involved in a civil lawsuit of this type, there is almost always a disparaging remark clause added into it at the settlement end. If you win, then you are most likely going to have to remove all your remarks in public forums like this one in order to meet your requirements. That won't be something you can do later on or have the least bit of control over, so we are saving you from yourself right now.

You may be frustrated currently (and we certainly empathize when our fellow campers get a bad RV), but you will thank us later for this.

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Old 03-15-2015, 05:50 PM   #35
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How do you determine what is libelous?

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Let me clear this up for everyone now. We do not pull posts because they are negative. We do encourage negative posts but we do not allow talk of lawyers or libelous talk. As long as you post truthful information in a respectful manner it is fine.
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Old 03-15-2015, 08:54 PM   #36
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Spencer Stewart, as previously expressed to you, the site team and the members here feel bad that you are having so many problems with your unit.

However, that being said, problems or not, you seem to be mischaracterizing the advice and private messages you have received.

Your post that violated the site guidelines here was removed, and an explanation sent to you. Talk of soliciting members for class action lawsuits will not be allowed here, as was fully explained in a private message, and pointed out in the appropriate guideline pertaining to this.

We are not sure if you fully understand that these forums are a collection of friends helping friends. We try to share our collective wisdom and help out one another, and we believe it is a successful endeavor. The members here are the best of the best, and will give you the shirt off their back to help.

The main thing, ABOVE ALL ELSE, is to play nice and treat your fellow forum members with respect. You don't have to agree or even believe what they say, but you don't call them names in a disrespectful manner.

Since it doesn't appear you are asking for any kind of advice or help in all your postings today........nor are you exhibiting the required respect for your fellow members, we can see no more point to this thread. As such, and to maintain forum harmony, we are closing this thread to new posts.

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