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Old 01-27-2016, 11:54 PM   #21
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For the repliers that think the Goodyear Marabomb failures are vastly overstated ... perhaps true if you tote around a 6000 - 7000# RV. For those of us that pull in the 12K+ range, they are a nightmare waiting to happen as these tires are just not up to the load ... period. I got rid of mine on my own dime as peace of mind is priceless. Mine SOB (12K+) Marabombs had bumps, bulges, and tread separation within 4000 miles and I religiously checked air pressure, axle weight, and kept road speed 65 and under. I've had dozens of acquaintances in my Keystone days that had fiver damage due to Marabomb tires failing in multiple ways. Some refused delivery until an alternate tire was swapped out. Several went with G614's ... I was light enough to go with Michelin LT tires. The old Marabombs went to tire graveyards or were sold to farmers who use them on their slow moving implement trailers used around the farm. I know I'm just blowing hot air in many of your minds, but with the heavier RV's you're definitely living on borrowed time running the Marabombs. There's to many of us to simply discount the issue.
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Old 01-28-2016, 01:26 AM   #22
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I had the goodyear marathons as OEM and 3 of them failed in under 5500 miles, I am anal about weight & check tire pressures every day while travelling. I bought 14ply Samson G rated and haven't had a problem so far in 11,000 miles. I sent the tires back to goodyear factory through a dealer and haven't heard a word back in 3 months. The failures were wild wires in tread and sidewalls.
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Old 01-28-2016, 01:46 AM   #23
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Not sure if I should start a new topic but I'm having issues with Forest River and Goodyear regarding the OEM China bombs on my 2015 Cardial 3580 RL
GAW 6840. Tires: Marathon ST235/80r16
My rims will handle the pressure of an ST235/85r16 like the good year G614

I very familiar with the concept of weight/ correct psi etc. I also understand that not all of the GVW is on the axels a portion going to the truck/hitch

I have attempted with no luck trying to get my warranty rep from Forest Ruver or Goodyear to understand that I truly don't want the hassle,,,,expense ,,,,or even worse possible injury due to a blow out on the crappy marathons that it came with.

Tires have ALWAYS been at correct pressure and veh was weighed to include end axel weight and has ALWAYS been under gross.

I'm curious how many of the China bomb blowouts have happened with correct settings?

My rep from the factory tried to get me to believe that the percentage of this tire on the road that have had issues is low. What do you all think? He even went so far to say that the forums are just full of complainers.

I looked at the Ceder Creek version of my 5er. Everything the same on the federal sticker EXCEPT THE FOLLOWING
Now they have gone to true 7000lb axels and have the G614 St235/85r16.
This would lead me to believe that they found there was a problem and so the newer models have the better axel. Also the GVW of the Ceder Creek was little over 200lb more than my Cardinal.

I would be more than happy to pay the difference for the better tires. My marathons only have 2 short trips on them. Am I making a mountain out of a mole hill? Do I spend big money on new tires even though mine a pretty much new?
I am running Marathons on our 28RKS TT with no issues. Our trailer grosses 9200LB loaded to go. Last summer we put on 14000KM (Almost 2000 of it on gravel) with NO problems. I'm very careful with tire pressure but other than that use them as they were meant to be and no issues. I've been a Goodyear fan my entire life and have no issues.
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Old 01-28-2016, 01:51 AM   #24
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I honestly do believe that the number of tire issues is vastly low compared to the number of people who complain about them.

I think that using forums as a gauge of normalcy vs. problems is a skewed universe. People often come to problems solely because they have issues (though, I wouldn't call them complainers).
Totally agree or folks have unreal expectations of tires , equipment etc. I read these forums and thing I must have horseshoes in all the right places or have a superbly manufactured unit!!
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Old 01-28-2016, 11:59 AM   #25
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Someone asked about Duro. I had two fail last year on a trip from Washington State to Omaha and back. I caught the first before it completely failed, however the second blew and cost me several thousand in repair costs.

When I put the Duros on I upgraded from load range E to F.

I was keeping my speed below 65 on a 80 MPH highway (you can imagine how the truckers felt about me) and I had the installers recommended air pressures and I was stopping about every hour to check my tires. And yes, I have weighed my trailer and all that stuff.

My experience with Duro to get some sort of compensation for even acknowledgement of a problem was unsuccessful.

Then to top it off the wholesaler went out of business and another company picked up the brand. At that point they would not even talk to me.

Any way, my experience shows me that the Duros aren't any better than the others.

I purchased a tire monitor so that if I loose another tire hopefully the monitor will let me know before any damage occurs.
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Old 01-28-2016, 12:58 PM   #26
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Thanks Broncl
That helps me make a decision on the Duro tires. With all due respect to everyone & their opinion on tires, it seems as though there are really not any tires out there for our RV's that we can put a whole lot of confidence in. Some say a certain brand is great while others say it is junk. Some will say one is junk & yet another will say it is great. I have read every thread pertaining to tires & it is the same as any other topic; it all comes down to personal preference & hope for the best.
Good luck to everyone with these tire issues & be safe.
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Old 01-28-2016, 02:06 PM   #27
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I had Duro 2100 radials OEM for 4 years and 9000 miles. They were great tires. Held air all year long. Now I have Hercules Power STR for two years and over 12,000 miles. Has also been a great tire although they lose a few lbs twice a year.


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Old 01-28-2016, 07:20 PM   #28
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Thanks for the info lbrjet. Just proves my point in my previous post. I think I'll stick with my OEM's until they need to be replaced & then????????????.
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Old 01-28-2016, 07:40 PM   #29
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People are calling the OEM tires china bombs. What they do not know is how the tires were treated while being delivered. Was the air pressure low, did the driver hit a lot of pot holes on the highway, what speed were they driving. All these situations are unknown. How would the higher priced tires hold up if were put on at the factory and delivered?
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Old 01-31-2016, 12:29 PM   #30
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I removed my E rated Marathons shortly after I got my camper and installed SOB G rated tires. Had one blow out after 2000 miles. Put on the spare got to my campsite and ordered 17.5 wheels and tires and installed them before I left. My Cardinal has 7k axles from the factory. It's an expensive upgrade but well worth it considering the damage a blown tire can do to your camper.


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Old 01-31-2016, 01:23 PM   #31
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What happened to the OP? Did we scare him off?
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Old 06-10-2016, 11:09 AM   #32
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Just replaced my Marathons with G614s after an interstate blowout and body damage on my 2016 Cardinal. Too little too late but I'll go down the road with a lot more confidence now.
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Old 06-18-2016, 12:10 PM   #33
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That's the truth. Right on brother.
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Old 09-17-2016, 05:07 PM   #34
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Goodyear Marathon ST 235 80/R16 -3 blown tires

We can absolutely guarantee the Goodyear Marathon tire sounds like a bomb when it explodes and does extensive damage. August 8, 2016 at 10:00 a.m. The first tire exploded northbound hwy5 Central CA at Sullivan Rd. It damaged the hydraulic line and the wheel well and entire lower left side back to the rear. Temporary patched the hydraulic line and changed out tire with spare. On the road, Approx 20-30 miles at Fink Rd. Second tire blew. We thought must have been damaged by the first. Eppler towing sent someone out with two new tires, changed out and on the road. Made it to Lake Tahoe.
9/15/16 On the way home at Kern Co line another tire blew this time on the right. We had Castro tire replace both tires so we could get home. We did not want to take a chance on the fourth tire.
The three tires that blew all had a build date of 4713 the 4th is 0614. We have the tires or what's left of them in our garage. Monday morning we are contacting Goodyear and Forest River.
Before we left home alltires were checked and had proper inflation. I'm the daughter of a mechanic and I always check before we go anywhere!
We have a Cardinal 2015 3850rl.
We want to upgrade to G rated tires. I will never feel comfortable traveling again with the size tires on it now. Roadside service had RoadKing and the other had Freedom. We had to take what was available. Even though these tires are new I don't trust them.
What is the best 14 ply tire for max GVW 1680 and do you know if these wheels are rated for the 235 85r16. If the Goodyear G 614 a good tire?
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Old 09-17-2016, 07:24 PM   #35
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I ordered mine with the G614s....USA stamped on the side! Pulled many miles with G614s on my 07 Cardinal so did not hesitate.
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Old 09-17-2016, 08:01 PM   #36
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I changed the tires on my 2702ss Rockwood after 1 year. The tires that came on it were Chinese no name tires. I noticed on my TPMS during my first year that one tire was always running hotter than the rest. After changing to Carlisle Trail radials I am seeing consistent temps across all 4 tires, they also hold pressure a lot better. Knowing that the manufacturers are going to use the cheapest tire available and a change out cost $350 I figured it was well worth it. The Carlisle's have been good so far.
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Old 09-17-2016, 10:41 PM   #37
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It only took one bomb blowout for me to buy 4 new G614s. You have to look inside your rim to see the stamped psi rating. The 614s require a 110psi rim. Luckily mine were. Goodyear required me to send them the tire which was done at a Goodyear store. Still haven't got my estimate on the body damage but that's all that's left to file my claim with Goodyear. I'm hoping they stand behind their tire and eventually reimburse me for the body damage and tire. I'll post the outcome when something happens, probably in a couple of months.
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We can absolutely guarantee the Goodyear Marathon tire sounds like a bomb when it explodes and does extensive damage. August 8, 2016 at 10:00 a.m. The first tire exploded northbound hwy5 Central CA at Sullivan Rd. It damaged the hydraulic line and the wheel well and entire lower left side back to the rear. Temporary patched the hydraulic line and changed out tire with spare. On the road, Approx 20-30 miles at Fink Rd. Second tire blew. We thought must have been damaged by the first. Eppler towing sent someone out with two new tires, changed out and on the road. Made it to Lake Tahoe.
9/15/16 On the way home at Kern Co line another tire blew this time on the right. We had Castro tire replace both tires so we could get home. We did not want to take a chance on the fourth tire.
The three tires that blew all had a build date of 4713 the 4th is 0614. We have the tires or what's left of them in our garage. Monday morning we are contacting Goodyear and Forest River.
Before we left home alltires were checked and had proper inflation. I'm the daughter of a mechanic and I always check before we go anywhere!
We have a Cardinal 2015 3850rl.
We want to upgrade to G rated tires. I will never feel comfortable traveling again with the size tires on it now. Roadside service had RoadKing and the other had Freedom. We had to take what was available. Even though these tires are new I don't trust them.
What is the best 14 ply tire for max GVW 1680 and do you know if these wheels are rated for the 235 85r16. If the Goodyear G 614 a good tire?

Hi Mistye,

Your Cardinal should have come with the Tredit T09 rim. If it did then you're good to go for putting a set of G614's on. The G614 is now an option that can be ordered on the Cardinal trailers.

Here is a picture of the T09 wheel.
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Feel free to PM if you have any questions. I did this same upgrade last year.
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Old 09-18-2016, 12:00 AM   #39
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I'm new at this forum. I think I attached the photo of our first blow out of the three. It shows some of the damage to the wheel, RV and jack. For some reason the picture transferred upside down. Thank you for your help. We are going with the G614's.
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Trying to upgrade Goodyear Marathons

You do have the T09 wheel. You can order a replacement from tredittire.com. You'll be much happier with the G614's. When you switch over make sure you get metal high pressure valve stems installed on your wheels. If all 3 of your blowout wheels are damaged then you might consider just ordering new wheels and tires from trailertiresandwheels.com.
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