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Old 03-14-2016, 04:44 PM   #11
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Where does the shower drain to? Having the non-high wall, we have no inside shower, only a single sink, and a smaller continuous-run fridge with no thermostat or DC control board. But we chose smaller to fit in the garage and easily tow behind our minivan in the mountains.

We drain our sink into a 5 gal bucket. We cook, eat, and wash dishes at the picnic table. Basically, the A-frame is a great sleeping space, and a place to lounge only when weather outside is miserable. We use campground toilets and showers, although the camper came with a porta-potty. But that's our camping style; others choose differently.

We had dual batteries installed by the dealer as part of the purchase. He put 2 Type 24 12V batteries in a single box that measures 21.25in long, 7in wide, and 11.75in deep on the inside. The 12V batteries didn't fit that well because of the lift lips on the battery ends overlapped.

The dealer wouldn't put bigger 12V batteries in because a bigger box would not fit between the A-frame box members on the battery mount rails.

My golf cart 6V battery replacements from Costco actually fit the existing box better length-wise. They are just short enough to clear the wood replacement box cover I made - the plastic original cover took off in heavy cross-winds. I did add a battery shut-off.

If you don't have a battery shut-off, disconnect one terminal of the battery completely when you get home so that parasite current draws don't deplete and ruin your battery.

My next mod is to improve the air flow over the fridge condenser coils. I notice the plywood bulkhead under the sink next to the fridge gets pretty warm when the fridge is running for a couple of days. This tells me the air flow over the fridge cooling coils is not what it should be. I bought some Reflectix insulation to guide the air flow to the upper exhaust vent.

Enjoy your trip, and I really hope all goes well.

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2008 Hyundai Entourage minivan with Equalizer WDH/anti-sway

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Old 03-14-2016, 08:11 PM   #12
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I put more fresh water in my tank using an Aquatainer. Remove the built in spigot, it leaves behind a standard 3/4 FPT opening. Replace it with a PVC MPT to MHT adapter from your local hardware store. On the adapter use a short piece of hose and a Camco 40003 Water Tank Filler. Lift the Aquatainer above the intake and let it drain.

The filler is good to have anyway just to fill the tank at home.


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Old 03-15-2016, 09:10 AM   #13
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You can hookup a $25 (on eBay) 10 watt solar panel to your battery without a charge controller. It will extend you stay, and the life of your battery. We have a 100 watt panel glued to the roof with a charge control and battery monitor with 2 batteries. We donít run out of electricity. Change your bulbs to LED off eBay, donít run microwave or AC, turn off the furnace at night and use sleeping bags at night to stay warm. I canít sleep through the noise of the furnace coming on, and it comes on many times a night. I turn it on in the morning to warm the trailer. We keep a couple of 5 gallon water jugs in the back of the truck. I set them on a ladder and siphon the water into the RV. They can usually be refilIed if youíre out and about. If youíre not close to a lake or stream, you can run you grey water out on the ground with a hose. Phosphates from soap are a fertilizer, but too much causes problems in streams and lakes. If youíre in a developed campground or next to water, youíll want a tote to haul it away. I can shower with a couple of gallons of water, but if your wife is washing her hair, that takes a lot more. Four people for four days, and we used about 50 gallons of water.
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Old 03-17-2016, 05:10 AM   #14
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What we've done

Our rig is a 2014 Rockwood A127TH. It has a 23 gallon FW tank located behind the axle. When full, it really looks bulged out on the bottom. As was said above, it doesn't look like it's very well supported. With the toy hauler platform forward, on which I've mounted a standard cross-bed truck tool box (since I had one laying around), we travel with a Honda i2000 Companion inverter gennie in the tool box, a fuel container strapped down outside the box, and we carry up to 4 7 gallon cube-type Reliance Aquatainers, and lastly a 5 gallon diesel fuel container as backup for the truck's 38 gallon onboard capacity. So, we have lots of weight forward to counterbalance the FW tank behind the axle.

We've towed with a full FW tank and I don't care for it. It's noticably heavier, even towing with an F350 diesel. Our trip from NC to Montana and back last summer featured quick overnight stops with no need for onboard water on the way out and back, so all tanks were empty, save for a supermarket 2.5 gallon container just to make coffee and brush teeth. Once we reached Dillon, MT, the last town before our Twin Lakes destination, we filled the FW tank and the cubes at the Rocky Mountain Supply where we also took on diesel, ice, and other necessities for the next 6 days. With the on board tank and the cubes full, we were sporting over 400 lbs of water, and it was definitely noticable.

As far as the gennie went, with high elevation campsites, we had no need for A/C. I don't think I can even run our A/C with the i2000, anyway. We have a standard Group 24 deep cycle and an AGM Group 27 in a box as a backup. I carry a Schumacher charger and the gennie powers it well on Eco setting. Our use of lights is minimal and we were not pumping lots of water via showering every day, so we needed literally a 15-20 minute gennie run every third day to keep the battery fully charged. Never unstrapped and connected the backup AGM.

We topped off the onboard FW tank from the cubes once and only used two of the four, so in the first 6 nights we used < 40 gallons. We made no effort to economize. I like the idea mentioned here of putting the cube on a ladder and letting it gravity flow or siphon. Holding nearly 60 lbs of water at chest height while it pours into a funnel into the onboard tank wasn't the best way to do that.

After 6 days, we started hopscotching around on a long way back to NC, ending up in the Nebraska Sandhills for two nights at a National Forest CG with nice bathhouses/showers. We dumped all of the remaining water before turning southeast on the slab for the 3 day run home.

Unless you're trying to run A/C and pump a lot of water (and remember you need to catch that water/properly drain the holding tanks somewhere) I can't imagine needing to run the gennie a lot to charge the battery. Finding somewhere to fill the FW supply immediately before heading in to the mountains works well, too, so you're not needlessly dragging hundreds of pounds of water cross-country down the highway.

Newbie to modern-era small RV camping, but grew up in the 1960s with a Cox tent camper w/ parents and 3 sisters. Yes, a little tight in there.

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Old 03-21-2016, 06:55 AM   #15
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Welcome to the forum and to A-frame camping. Over time your family will develop your own style of camping. Camping is not the same for everyone. My wife also demands certain necesities that I seldom think of. The amount of water and acessories for me are determined by what is available at the campsite. If it has water, bathrooms and showers then I am all good, if not then we adapt. We usually fill the fresh water tank before we leave home and I keep it topped off if water is available on site. The trip home, the tank travels empty. We also carry a generator and a solar panel to keep the batteries charged. If the wife wants to use the microwave or the air conditioner it is there. Have fun with your new A-frame!
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Old 03-23-2016, 04:42 PM   #16
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Except in early spring, I run with the 20 gallon tank and 6 gallon hot water heater tank full to the campground with no problems. Even pulling in the mountains.
Trailer: Lifted 228BH, heavy duty springs and Yokohama tires
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Old 03-23-2016, 07:05 PM   #17
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I usually drive with a full fresh water tank and water heater. I do this because its easier to flip the water pump switch than to hook up the hose, for the small amount of water I use. My guess is that with both tanks full, the tongue is slightly heavier than it would be with both empty. I never notice the difference in weight.

This plan didn't work this past weekend when the water pump stopped working and I had to hook up the city water. The toughest part was bling removal of the screws on the back side of the pump. They were put in at an odd angle instead of going through the holes already in the feet. Thankfully I had a #2 square bit on hand and a ratcheting driver. After that was done, the installation of the new pump was easy.


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