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Old 10-18-2012, 11:02 PM   #111
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My wife and I plan on camping at least one time a month during the winter months through spring. It will be covered against the effects of weather but fully ready to camp as needed.

To me, we are coming up on some of our best camping weather down here!
Have fun with your future trips. I hope you create a thread and give us your experience in winter camping.
In your case you don't have to elevate the tires since they won't be on one spot for a long period of time.

I did not get any info from AFrame owners about elevating their tires if it is a good or bad idea.

Since my rig will be stationary for 5 months I'll attempt to have them raised. I have an idea on what to do. Having the jack stand on the axle is not recommended so I'll use a pair of jack stand on each side, one close to the back of the tire and the other in the front. The weight will be distributed on the frame just like how it supports the axle. I'll post pics on the raised tires when it is done.

Idea: I think if a lower the tongue to the lowest point and then put the jack stand close to the rear of the tires, then raise the tongue until both tires are elevated, then put jack stands close to the front of the tires(maybe use both front stabilizer to support some weight), then lower the tongue so the weight are now on the 4 jack stands. If this works then I do not have to jack up each side. Will this damage the tongue lifter?

I'm starting to winterize my rig. It was hard to unscrew the anode rod. I had to barrow special tools to get it out and I was successful today.

Step 1 is done, drain all the water from hot water tank and fresh water tank via gravity.

Step 2 I'll attempt to bypass the hot water line and then blow out the water via the water intake port with an air compressor set at 35 psi. I will check if this will empty the filter jar without a filter. Use the water pump to blow out more water. If the filter jar is not empty, manually remove the jar and empty it. Open the lower drain pipes. Put antifreeze in the sink drain.

Step 3 Fill in the water line with antifreeze, I may skip this step if I could blow out all the water from the lines.

PS: if I'm missing something in my step please point it out

I plan to do this steps this weekend.

Good luck getting your rig winterized!
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Old 10-19-2012, 01:20 AM   #112
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Why do you want to elevate your trailer tires? We have had several travel trailers as well as utility trailers and never elevated them in the winter & no damage has ever occurred with the tires. Our utility trailers are kept outside on hard packed dirt/sand during our snowy winter season and theyve been ready to work when spring arrives whereas my only concern with the A-Frame is the snow load on the roof & windows, so it is stored inside the shop. LOL I popped it up so I can "pretend camp" until the spring. Silly but true. hee hee
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Old 10-19-2012, 02:01 AM   #113
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Why do you want to elevate your trailer tires?
Tire Flat-spotting: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=42
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Old 10-19-2012, 02:53 AM   #114
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Thats very interesting note on tires but still not sure why you'd want to elevate your A-Frame tires? It doesnt have heavy duty high performance and high speed rated tires as indicated in the article...well, at least not the tires that came on my toy hauler trailer? Maybe our units have different tires - I still fail to see the necessity of elevation for these light weight trailers. Take care.
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Old 10-19-2012, 09:48 AM   #115
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I understand the theory behind elevating the tires off the "ground" but I have to agree with handbuilder. We have now and have owned different campers and utility trailers over the years that have sat unused for extended periods. We never had issues with the tires and some of them weren't the newest tires either...

I'm not saying it won't be a problem, each person's situation and tolerances are different, just that we've never had issues. I also understand your interest in protecting your investment. This aframe has brought you a lot of pleasure in the last few months, so I get your concern.

If storing your camper outside over winter, I would suggest using wheel/tire covers to keep the elements (mainly sun) from damaging the tires. I'd cover them whether you elevate the tires or not.

Interested in what you do and the outcome.

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If storing your camper outside over winter, I would suggest using wheel/tire covers to keep the elements (mainly sun) from damaging the tires. I'd cover them whether you elevate the tires or not.

Interested in what you do and the outcome.

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It is nice to know that the tires does not show any damage without elevating them, the AFrame may not be that heavy but I may go for it just to pamper my rig. If it is too difficult to elevate the tires I'll skip this step. Have you stored your rig without moving them for more than 5 months?

I'm using the info you post about the water line blow out process. I did the bypass hot water tank step. I turned on the water pump and got more water out from the faucets. It was not strong enough to empty the water filter jar so I did that manually. Also the fresh water tank is empty. My water pump does not stop pumping at this point, all faucets are shut off, is this normal?

Still trying to Winterize my rig!
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Yes, it's normal when there's no water in the lines. The pump shuts off when it senses back pressure resulting from the line being full of water with no place to go. According to the pump maker, these pumps can run dry without damage, though I still keep those times rare and short. Sounds like you're getting well battened down for winter.
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Old 10-21-2012, 11:49 AM   #118
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Have you stored your rig without moving them for more than 5 months?
I believe the longest our aframe has sat in one position is about 4 months, but we keep our trailers stored inside. Even so, winter weather here in the Midwest US is not extended & extreme like in Canada... Go with your gut on this.

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I'm using the info you post about the water line blow out process. I did the bypass hot water tank step. I turned on the water pump and got more water out from the faucets. It was not strong enough to empty the water filter jar so I did that manually.

Still trying to Winterize my rig!
A project to consider is, either this fall or in the spring while your aframe is not in use, remove/bypass the water filter all together.
We take milk jugs of water for coffee and use bottled water (both bought and also filled from home) for drinking. We never installed the filter cartridge anyway.

Gary plumbed a bypass which removed the filter jar. This freed up space under the sink and also eliminated one step of the winterizing process.

In our situation the filter was not used. You may feel, the way you use your water system, filtering the water is necessary.

In case you are interested, here are a couple of photos of his work:


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Old 10-21-2012, 07:32 PM   #119
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Yes, it's normal when there's no water in the lines. The pump shuts off when it senses back pressure resulting from the line being full of water with no place to go. According to the pump maker, these pumps can run dry without damage, though I still keep those times rare and short. Sounds like you're getting well battened down for winter.
Thank you for this information. I was about to conclude that my water pump is weak and cannot build enough air pressure to stop. This is what happens too when my water runs out the pump keeps going. I'm glad to know that the water pump does not get damage if it keeps going for several hours.

I think I have completed the blow out process and I'll skip the antifreeze in the water lines. The sink drain has antifreeze.

This worries me, why no water pass the low point valves. Here is a pic of my valves, I twist both ways and no water came out: is that normal?
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When the switch is in this position(pic) the water pump does not stop pumping even when the tanks are full. Twist it (parallel to the pipe) and the water pump stops and water flow is normal, this position is how I have it in camping.

Winterizing almost done!
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The low point valves are pull-up valves, unless they've changed in the newer models. Turning them wouldn't open them, so gently lift the handles, slowly applying increased pull, until the T-handles pop up. I'm advising caution because it looks to me like one could break off the T-handles by jerking them up. You'll want to open the sink faucet to let some air in the lines while the low point valves are open. There shouldn't be much water coming out by this time after you've already got so much out.

You mention another switch and picture but I don't see that one. Did it get left off your post?
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