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Old 04-18-2012, 09:39 AM   #11
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Bear spray is sold in almost every Kmart or Walmart here in Wyoming. They run about $40. Don't confuse the "purse" sized pepper sprays with the bear sprays. There is a big difference in size and effectiveness between the two. For $40 it is pretty cheap insurance and piece of mind.

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Old 04-18-2012, 10:10 AM   #12
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Thanks everyone for weighing in. Sounds like we need to be careful about storing aromatic foods in the trailer. Dry and canned foods mostly okay, don't you think? Already have UDAP bear spray on order and as long time tent campers we have whistles and an air horn. The big difference for us with the trailer is that we store and prepare food there, and perhaps in griz country we should rethink the cooking plans and cook outside. We never took any food into our tent and kept food locked in our motorcycle trailer parked well away from the tent; also always changed clothes and left cooking clothes in locked motorcycle trailer. Guess we'll return to some of our tent camping precautions. We'll leave Messers Smith and Wesson at home. No desire to incur border issues. Appreciate the wise council on not overblowing the risk.


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Old 04-18-2012, 10:38 AM   #13
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Here is some interesting reading for you. I have seen first hand that canned goods etc aren't necessarily safe. Several years ago I hunted elk east of the park boundry of Yellowstone. We had bears in camp nearly every night. They got into the canned goods and bit holes right through the cans. A bears sense of smell is unbelievable. Also don't asume that your vehicle is necessarily a safe place to store food. My dad lives in central Colorado and had the door of his Ford F-150 ripped open by a black bear to get at some food he had left in it. A bear proof container or hanging your food and utensils is the only sure bet.

Bears and Food Storage - Yosemite National Park

BWCA Can bears smell freeze-dried food? Boundary Waters Gear Forum (read the PDF "Recreating Guide")
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Old 04-18-2012, 11:59 AM   #14
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Just remember you do not have to run faster than the bear, you just have to run faster than the person next to you......
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Old 04-18-2012, 01:06 PM   #15
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As my wife, who lived in Alaska says, the only thing that runs away from a bear is food.
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Old 04-18-2012, 02:06 PM   #16
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Sign spotted in a park in Canada:

Due to the recent frequency of human-bear encounters, the B.C. Fish and Wildlife branch is advising hikers, hunters, fishermen and any persons that use the outdoors in a recreational or work related function to take extra precautions while in the field.

We advise the outdoorsman to wear little noisy bells on clothing so as to give advance warning to any bears that might be close by so you donít take them by surprise.

We also advise anyone using the outdoors to carry pepper spray with him in case of an encounter with a bear.

Outdoorsmen should also be on the watch for fresh bear activity and be able to tell the difference between black bear feces and grizzly bear feces.

Black bear feces is smaller and contains lots of berry seeds and squirrel fur. Grizzly bear feces has bells in it and smells like pepper.
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Old 04-18-2012, 02:48 PM   #17
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I'm not sure if your getting across the boarder with the bear spay, i would strongly suggest you check into that. Here in Canada, bear spay is allowed .. only carried in a holster, or belt latch. If bear spray is pocketed .. hidden or likewise, it is considered a consealed weapon, and depending how new or keen the officer is that your dealing with .. could spell some real problems for you. Also .. go over your food lists and ensure you purchase only what you need in the USofA, and the rest in Canada, and dispose of it coming back through your boarders.
We are not weapon friendly here at all.
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Old 04-18-2012, 03:49 PM   #18
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I prefer the throwing food in the neighbours site after they go to bed method!!

While on the trail, I adopt the take someone that is slower method!

Easy now, I'm just kidding.

I usually have my dog with me and she alerts me to many things. I have yet to encounter a bear while hiking or the like but have had one in my site. My neighbours had mini fridges outside their tents. (previously posted story). It ran away when I shone the flashlight in its eyes.
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Old 04-18-2012, 03:56 PM   #19
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Being I camped in Yellowstone, Grand Tetons, and etc...

The best advice I can give you. Do Not Put Any Food in your A Frame Camper. I would go as far as do everything you can to not prepare food or eat in your camper.

The best and safest way to store food is to place in a bear locker, your second choice is your vehicle. If it is in the vehicle put it in storage totes that lid fairly tight and place a blanket over the whole thing.

When speaking with Rangers from the NPS they informed me that bears have figured out that small campers, especially Pop Ups with fabric sides are an easy pick for food. Reason be is that there is a false since of security by the campers in comparison to the tent campers.

If you cook food, it is important to dispose of all scraps and clean all surfaces well. That is why I suggest to cook outside as much as possible, it will make your life so much easier.

Bear Spray is not an option, it is a must. I have not been to Canada so heed to the rest of the advice in regards to law, but when I am in the US I have Bear Spray (first line) and I carry my .45

Now to be honest I carry the .45 for the sole purpose that it carries 10 rounds.... I will shoot 9 at the bear to try to stop it, but in all honesty save the last one for myself when it does not work.
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Old 04-18-2012, 04:04 PM   #20
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You mean to tell me the Aliner crowd hasn't come up with a grizzly mod yet?...

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