Bike rack

[Oksourdough]

Tried out my Kuat Transfer 2 bike rack with the Arvika mount for the first time today. Seems pretty solid. Now to do a road trip and see how it holds up. Still allows easy access to the front storage compartment and with the hutch extension stays well clear of the tailgate on the truck and my kayak on its rack.

[Ortep]

Oksourdough, please let us know how this bike rack holds up on your next road trip. DW keeps wanting me to add a bike rack to the back of our T21TBHW and I keep telling her NO! The bumper won't hold the weight of our two bikes and I would need to re-enforce the back of the camper. If this rack holds up I would be interested in purchasing one to satisfy the DW.

[rvsixer]

Originally Posted by Ortep

DW keeps wanting me to add a bike rack to the back of our T21TBHW and I keep telling her NO! The bumper won't hold the weight of our two bikes and I would need to re-enforce the back of the camper. If this rack holds up I would be interested in purchasing one to satisfy the DW.

On the other hand, your tow vehicle might not take the amount of tongue weight added by this solution (both mounts are around 70'ish lbs total, and the weight of two bikes and all the accessories mounted to them maybe another 60-100 lbs depending). IIRC 21' FR a-frames already have pretty have tongues near 450+ lbs iirc.

[Oksourdough]

Originally Posted by rvsixer

On the other hand, your tow vehicle might not take the amount of tongue weight added by this solution (both mounts are around 70'ish lbs total, and the weight of two bikes and all the accessories mounted to them maybe another 60-100 lbs depending). IIRC 21' FR a-frames already have pretty have tongues near 450+ lbs iirc.

My Tow vehicle is a 2016 GMC Canyon diesel. No issue with weight.

[bikendan]

Originally Posted by Oksourdough

My Tow vehicle is a 2016 GMC Canyon diesel. No issue with weight.

He's talking about payload capacity, not towing capacity.
Just cause it's a mini diesel, doesn't mean it has plenty of payload.
Probably does but one should never assume.

[rvsixer]

Originally Posted by Oksourdough

My Tow vehicle is a 2016 GMC Canyon diesel. No issue with weight.

My reply was directed at Ortep, since he has a heavier tongue weight than you (my assumption from the pics, it looks like you have a non-HW shorter a-frame).


Still curious since you mention your tow vehicle, as I am considering downsizing to a Duramax Colorado/Canyon. What's the max payload on your door sticker?


Per max payload rating in GM documentation (i.e. non-real world), Ortep's config could be marginal with a GM twin (but if only two people who pack light, would be okay).

[Oksourdough]

Like I said my tv has no issue with tongue weight. Good for just over 800 lbs or 408 kgs. No way a bike rack gets me close to that.

[rvsixer]

Originally Posted by Oksourdough

Like I said my tv has no issue with tongue weight. Good for just over 800 lbs or 408 kgs. No way a bike rack gets me close to that.

800 lbs tongue weight, provided it doesn't put you over GVWR.


I'm going to go look at the twins. At 1200-1300 payload, tongue weight could be a real issue if you have more than two light packers aboard.

[Ortep]

rvsixer, we have a 2017 Ram 2500 CTD, CC, SB, 4x4 to tow with. I think that I have plenty of "weight" to spare to be able to install that bike rack on the aframe. How we pack in the trailer, cab & bed of the truck I still need a step ladder to get into the bed of the truck, no sag on the rear end. I weigh 200 lbs and when I get into the packed bed of the truck it doesn't move. Another 100 lbs won't do a thing to my towing capacity.

[rvsixer]

Originally Posted by Ortep

rvsixer, we have a 2017 Ram 2500 CTD, CC, SB, 4x4 to tow with. I think that I have plenty of "weight" to spare to be able to install that bike rack on the aframe. How we pack in the trailer, cab & bed of the truck I still need a step ladder to get into the bed of the truck, no sag on the rear end. I weigh 200 lbs and when I get into the packed bed of the truck it doesn't move. Another 100 lbs won't do a thing to my towing capacity.

Okay agreed. I only pointed it out as there are very few of us here towing with 3/4+ton Diesels (with 1000lb dead weight hitches). Another 150+ lbs tongue weight won't hurt for sure.

With half ton truck or less that most here in the a-frame section are towing with, the 600-650lb tongue weight (plus needed WD hitch) could really be pushing/grossly exceeding payload rating (if more than two passengers who pack light).


PS - I step on the rear tire, and then on into the bed, no step ladder needed (but am tall and over 200lb).

[rvsixer]

Originally Posted by Oksourdough

Like I said my tv has no issue with tongue weight. Good for just over 800 lbs or 408 kgs.

So I checked out a Canyon CCLB 4x4 Duramax today. Nice truck, I am seriously considering one, to downsize from my current 6.6L Duramax monster.

Just not sure I want to marginalize too much. Max payload 1223 lbs, max tongue weight 760 lbs (hitch is rated at 900 lbs dead weight, but max tongue weight is derated per owner manual to 760 lbs).

So 1223 lbs less (~400 lb tongue + ~150 lb bike racks and two bikes) = ~675 lbs for people/fuel/gear. Two people with gear is okay, add more and it starts pushing max weights.

[bikendan]

Originally Posted by rvsixer

So I checked out a Canyon CCLB 4x4 Duramax today. Nice truck, I am seriously considering one, to downsize from my current 6.6L Duramax monster.

Just not sure I want to marginalize too much. Max payload 1223 lbs, max tongue weight 760 lbs (hitch is rated at 900 lbs dead weight, but max tongue weight is derated per owner manual to 760 lbs).

So 1223 lbs less (~400 lb tongue + ~150 lb bike racks and two bikes) = ~675 lbs for people/fuel/gear. Two people with gear is okay, add more and it starts pushing max weights.

Pretty sad that the baby Duramax only has a payload of 1223lbs.
With that low of a number, it limits the truck for future trailers.

[rvsixer]

Originally Posted by bikendan

Pretty sad that the baby Duramax only has a payload of 1223lbs.
With that low of a number, it limits the truck for future trailers.

To be fair, this was a loaded Denali 4x4 long bed, so worst case payload scenario. Don't forget there are some half tons out there with the same payload rating, so for a mid size it's not all that bad.

[cpttimerstraint]

Originally Posted by rvsixer

So I checked out a Canyon CCLB 4x4 Duramax today. Nice truck, I am seriously considering one, to downsize from my current 6.6L Duramax monster.

Just not sure I want to marginalize too much. Max payload 1223 lbs, max tongue weight 760 lbs (hitch is rated at 900 lbs dead weight, but max tongue weight is derated per owner manual to 760 lbs).

So 1223 lbs less (~400 lb tongue + ~150 lb bike racks and two bikes) = ~675 lbs for people/fuel/gear. Two people with gear is okay, add more and it starts pushing max weights.

We just toad our 213hw 700 miles with a canyon Duramax over a few California passes and we averaged 22mpg.

[rvsixer]

Originally Posted by cpttimerstraint

We just toad our 213hw 700 miles with a canyon Duramax over a few California passes and we averaged 22mpg.

That's awesome. PM'ed you with further questions, as I think I already partially derailed this thread .

[vinmaker]

Could you post a pick of the mounting to the A frame?


Does the top part quick release to store away? I have a pop up, so I need for the front to be clear so the beds can slide out.


I found that racks can sway pretty much if there is no contact with the unit. If it is simply free standing on two metal posts then it can sway quite a bit. How did yours hold up? Does it wobble if you pull on it?


Thanks,


Vin.

[Oksourdough]

This is a photo of the Arvika 2 inch receiver mount for the bike rack. This photo is a stock photo on a trailer not mine. Should give you an idea of how it mounts on the a frame with two long bolts. The bike rack slides into the reciever and can be removed easily. The top of the reciever mount can also be removed by loosening the two large black twist screws.

[Oksourdough]

I have found that mine is pretty solid and does not wobble even with the bike rack and bike on it. Probably less wobble etc than a rear mounted bike rack on the spare tire.