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Old 04-12-2016, 10:05 PM   #41
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I, for one, appreciate the Tireman's experienced participation on this forum.

I have a TPMS, and would have said much the very same things about the use of those systems as he did, and I don't sell 'em, either.

Do the antagonists have relevant specialties with which they can also participate for our common good?

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Old 04-12-2016, 10:24 PM   #42
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Tireman9's comment is good enough for me. He's never advertised anything but his experience.

Thank you very much Tireman9!!!!
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Old 04-13-2016, 09:20 AM   #43
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I wouldn't care if he did sell them. Doesn't negate the fact that they are a useful tool. If I sold fire extinguishers I wouldn't be allowed to tell you it's a good idea to have one? As long as he's not running ads or actively advertising, then who cares?
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Old 04-13-2016, 09:39 AM   #44
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I wouldn't care if he did sell them. Doesn't negate the fact that they are a useful tool. If I sold fire extinguishers I wouldn't be allowed to tell you it's a good idea to have one? As long as he's not running ads or actively advertising, then who cares?
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Old 04-13-2016, 09:39 AM   #45
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Because I don't sell TPMS nor do I get a commission nor do I work for any company that makes TPMS.

The Blog is owned by RVTravel. They asked me to write the blog and I agreed. I have no say in who advertises on the blog.

Clear enough?

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Yes I am offering an opinion on the belt/tread separation but that is based on what almost anyone can see from the picture in that the two belts and the tread have separated from the body of the tire. It does not appear to have been a "blowout" and that is why I suggested that an annual "free-spin" inspection might have discovered the separation in its early stages and the tire been replaced before it came apart on the road. My opinion is based on about 20,000 tire autopsies that I did during my 40 years as a tire design & quality engineer including offering instruction to about 500 engineers & techs in North, Central and South America as well as the safety engineers at NHTSA.

It's easy to have an opinion. What takes more effort is to have an opinion based on actual work in the industry and to have actually been responsible for failed tire examinations with written reports being accepted as true and accurate by GM, Ford, Honda, BMW, Fiat, Chrysler, Toyota, Mazda, Subaru and by lawyers involved in fatal accident investigations.

TPMS will not prevent 100% of tire failures any more than having an oil pressure gauge or water temperature gauge in your car or truck. If you don't think having warning information presented to the driver than I challenge you to go and disconnect your gauges or at least tape over the lights and dials in the instrument panel.

I would be very interested in learning exactly what I got wrong in my report of Aug 12, 2014.
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Old 04-13-2016, 09:59 AM   #46
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TPMS can pay for themselves. First you might eliminate destroying a tire due to driving on it while it is doing a slow leak. Even of the damage to the tire makes it un-repairable you should prevent damage to the RV due to the tire flailing against the RV. (In the above example it appears the owner was lucky and the tire failure didn't do the damage.)
Reading some of your blog info and want to get back to it. Thank-you Tireman.

TPMS pays for themselves? Heck yes....
My stress level went waaay down, by not staring at the camper tires the whole trip that way 2500 miles long a few weeks ago. I did not check the heat level at every stop with a heat gun, like I have on past trips. I did not have to go around and check the PSI in eight tires from time to time like I did in the past. I have had tire separations on my Truck(s) and also flats/blowouts/ect on every camper that I have had. How I wish I had something like the TST 507 that I have now for the last 30 years.

TPMS 'pays' for themselves???? OHHH yaa...
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Old 04-13-2016, 10:08 AM   #47
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Sorry for the rant yesterday. Usually I ignore the nay-sayers but maybe I got up on wrong side of bed and the comments about me compromising my engineering integrity because I sold some product just got to me.

I have sold products in years gone by for race car applications but I used the products I sold, so could endorse them based on both my engineering analysis and personal experience. Right now as far as I know my name is only associated with two products in the form of an endorsement by name. One is a digital tire gauge and in that case I receive no compensation but may contact the company and see what can be arranged. The other is computer software program for doing Genealogy research but again no compensation is received.

If someone bothers to check the over 200 posts on my blog on RV tires you will see that I make a few product suggestions such as "use TPMS" but they are more generic as in my recommendation to "use tire covers". I mention no brand name and only suggest the color white.

If you ever attend one of my tire seminars you may also note that I offer no products or even subscriptions for sale.
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Old 04-13-2016, 01:26 PM   #48
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I guess I'm going to wade in here, and say that I'm an A-frame owner who does not have TPMS beyond what comes on cars and minivan. And probably will not install one unless and until I have a blowout that damages my A-frame. My reasons:


I tow with a minivan, and installing a TPMS would be awkward to say the least. Installing the brake controller was ugly enough.


Most importantly, I'm running my A-frame tires with a significant reserve. The tires on my A-frame have a combined capacity of 3,420 lbs. I typically run at 2,800lbs or less (water in the tank is +/- 120 lbs), and that's not counting the weight shift to the minivan from the tongue and WDH. My A-frame tires should be no more likely to "blow out" than my minivan's tires.


My trips are limited to 1,500 miles and 9 days or less (usually less). Speeds are less than 68MPH. I set my tires to sidewall max pressure (65 PSI) before every trip, and look over the tires while adding air. I also get a peek at the tires when adding the Leveler Lego blocks and chocks at each campsite, and while lighting the propane burner on the fridge.


For me, the likely return on investment for a TPMS just isn't there. If I were towing a dual axle TT with heavily loaded tires, I would probably reach the opposite conclusion.


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Old 04-13-2016, 01:30 PM   #49
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...probably will not install one unless and until I have a blowout that damages my A-frame. My reasons:
I tow with a minivan, and installing a TPMS would be awkward to say the least...
Can you explain how it would be awkward?
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I tow with a minivan, and installing a TPMS would be awkward to say the least. Installing the brake controller was ugly enough.
There is no "installation" with a TPMS. You twist the sensors on and throw the monitor unit onto the dash or cupholder or something.
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