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Old 11-22-2014, 06:09 PM   #1
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Breakaway cable

Searching through the forums I see I am not the only one who has disengaged the breakaway switch while driving. It was not until we were at the campsite that we noticed the problem. Can someone show me where to replace the flat " key" portion of the breakaway cable?


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Old 11-22-2014, 06:18 PM   #2
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If it came out and you just discovered it at a campground, I would suspect your trailer brakes are now toast. It connects to a little black box close to the hitch.
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Old 11-22-2014, 06:32 PM   #3
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If it came out and you just discovered it at a campground, I would suspect your trailer brakes are now toast. It connects to a little black box close to the hitch.
X2? - you didn't feel like your RV brakes were dragging? Do you have a charged battery in the RV?

It sounds like there's more to the story than what's being told us.
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Actually felt no dragging and no lock up of the brakes. The battery was not hooked up during the drive. We think it may have happened at the campsite since there was a big dip in the site. The cable was not damaged so it could not have been dragging on the drive.


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You just need to push the pin back into the switch from the ball side. When connected, you should have sufficient slack in the cable to allow for sharp turns ( and dips) with out pulling the pin out. On another note, it is illegal in most if not all states to tow a trailer with electric brakes without a working break-away switch and battery.
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Actually felt no dragging and no lock up of the brakes. The battery was not hooked up during the drive. We think it may have happened at the campsite since there was a big dip in the site. The cable was not damaged so it could not have been dragging on the drive.


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So do you know disconnected the battery? Probably the same person pulled the breakaway cable for some unknown reason. That's the reason you felt no dragging. You also had no electric braking or an operative electric braking system as required by law.

As Flybob states - if your RV is equipped with electric brakes,it must also have an operative battery and breakaway cable hookup to be legal.
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Searching through the forums I see I am not the only one who has disengaged the breakaway switch while driving. It was not until we were at the campsite that we noticed the problem. Can someone show me where to replace the flat " key" portion of the breakaway cable?


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Howdy K1050, the problem you may encounter is that the "pin" to the breakaway switch is not just universal depending on the brand. Different brands will have different shapes and styles of pins.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...1DK1M8KEGBSJE3

If you know the brand/model of the breakaway switch, you might can go to a trailer supply store (and some automotive stores) and get the pin. I almost want to say I've seen one brand at Tractor Supply too.

Hopkins Manufacturing 20009 - Break-Away Cable | O'Reilly Auto Parts

However, these breakaway switches are usually less than $20 for a whole new unit. They are just attached to the trailer frame by one bolt, and two wires that you can splice. It's very easy to just replace the whole unit.....which may be your best bet. I don't know the history of your switch, but maybe have doubts if it is still good.

These switches will often melt internally if they have been energized by the battery for awhile once the pin gets pulled (either by purpose or on accident). We have had several members who incorrectly pulled the pin to set the brakes while camping....and thus had to replace melted breakaway switches.
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Old 11-23-2014, 08:19 AM   #8
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Thanks for the advice everyone. Having never owned a camper before we were dependent on the walk through to go over all the must dos. We have never had issues with the brakes before and have always heard them so the battery must have been connected. There is always something to learn here. This is our view this weekend so I am thankful for that. Click image for larger version

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Thanks for the advice everyone. Having never owned a camper before we were dependent on the walk through to go over all the must dos. We have never had issues with the brakes before and have always heard them so the battery must have been connected. There is always something to learn here. This is our view this weekend so I am thankful for that. Attachment 66770


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Don't worry about it you can get a new brake controller at most any auto parts store, just call and ask before driving there to get one so no wasted trip looking for one. Good view is that a cruise ship in the back ground? I've been wanting to go camp since Thursday but rain, rain, and more rain. 4" just in the last 2 days.
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Actually felt no dragging and no lock up of the brakes. The battery was not hooked up during the drive. We think it may have happened at the campsite since there was a big dip in the site. The cable was not damaged so it could not have been dragging on the drive.


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So, just to be clear - there are multiple things at play here.

1) the breakaway switch is for the brakes and is supposed to activate them if the camper comes separate from the tow vehicle

2) the battery for the camper. It'll have battery cables - 1 going to the positive and negative terminals. This gives you power when you're not connected to campground (or home) electric (and not plugged into your truck). This also energizes the brakes when the breakaway cable gets pulled. This should energize the brakes even if your 7-pin connector is disconnected.

3) your 7-pin connector (aka umbilical cord) connects your tow vehicle to the camper. The controls the turn signals, sometimes gives a charge to the battery as you drive, and tells the brakes when you press on the in the truck. It's wholly unused in a breakaway situation.

From reading your post, it sounds like 1 and 3 were disconnected. Is this correct? What is the state of #2?

If #2 was still connected, you're going to want to find out why the brakes didn't lock up. The whole purpose of #1 is if the camper separates from the tow vehicle is to apply its brakes to stop the trailer ASAP.
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