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Old 06-17-2015, 09:44 AM   #11
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If just sleeping and looking for short term protection from inclement weather, it can work, especially if doing all cooking, social activity, etc outside. This can be facilitated by the addition of an attached or detached cover, such as a folding gazebo.
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Old 06-17-2015, 01:44 PM   #12
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I'd agree that 4 is too many in an a-frame. Two of us and a three-year-old is probably about the limit.

It's not the beds, it's the lack of storage and interior space compared to a pop-up with the same box size.
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Old 06-17-2015, 03:28 PM   #13
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Storage is sufficient (and we have the smallest model - straight A122).....if you are ruthless about not taking extra "stuff". Again, our max stay is 3 nights (long weekend).

We each have a duffel for clothes that is moved to camper upon setup - cold and wet weather jackets stay in camper permanently. That way we each pack a duffel for the weekend on less than an hour's notice.

We use foam toppers on top of the stock mattress, and a fitted sheet and a blanket. All bedding (including pillows) stays in the camper, on the bed. Sides and roof fold down fine with this stuff on the beds (unlike a PUP).

Food and drink go into 2 medium coolers in the minivan - most cooler contents are transferred to camper fridge upon arrival at site, but don't have to be.

Cooking is griddle, frying pan, 2 pots, foil, and utensils. We have a set of 4 hard plates, bowls, cups, and silver - but usually use paper products and plastic cutlery. Cleaning is 2 dish tubs and soap, sponge, pad. All are stored under dinette seat. Paper and plastic products, foil, cleaning supplies are renewed as needed after a trip. 2 burner Coleman-like stove and propane bottles fit in left rear, along with small tool kit and electrical and plumbing fittings. We may add a table top grill in the future.

The A-frame, unlike the PUP I had previously, is truly one person setup. We store ours in the garage (the reason we bought the smallest model). Clothes duffels, food, folding camp chairs, and EZ-up go into van night before or morning of trip.

Arrive at site, note number of orange Legos needed to level side-to-side from calibrated level on front of camper, place Legos, back on to Legos and chock. Turn fridge DC off. Disconnect minivan. Level fore and aft. Set up A-frame. Turn on propane, hook up electric (when available), restart fridge, hook up water or turn on pump, turn on hot water heater, connect gray water hose and bucket, turn on heater or A/C as needed, open windows/vent. Less than 30 minutes by myself.

If you need/want more camping stuff, the A-frame is probably too small. We bought the A-frame for quick setup for frequent one night trips and ability to store in garage, pretty much ready-to-go. Easy to use makes for frequent use, justifying the money spent. I learned from owning and using boats that despite their many limitations, small boats get used a lot more than big boats.

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Old 06-18-2015, 11:46 AM   #14
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I have been a tent camper for more than 50 years and we only used the tents for sleeping. Keep that idea in mind. Your situation will work if you set up the screened awning and use that to eat in. You can grill outside, cook inside and in the evening you can all sit around the table in the evening, either inside or in the screened. I like it because we have air conditioning and heat and my wife and I plan on spending most of the winter with it in Florida.
You just need to have a plan for dressing, using the porta potti and coonverting from sleeping to eating. You can also remove the convertible table, keep it outside in the screen in awning area and replace them with boards for setting up for sleeping.
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Old 06-22-2015, 10:34 PM   #15
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Thanks for all the replies. I think I'm going to try it out as we spend all our time outside unless it's raining. The t21 seems like we should fit as it's the biggest model and we have a standalone screen room.
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Old 06-23-2015, 07:33 AM   #16
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Great. Happy Camping.
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Old 09-07-2015, 12:29 PM   #17
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We have A122S and it fits our family of 4 perfectly. The front bed is 45x80 so if our kids are much taller later, we will move to the front and the kids can have the back bed which is 54x 80. I agree with Pooneil as cramped into a tent looking hardwall is quite enjoyable as cramping into a tent. We use it for sleeping and spend most of our time outside...hence looking for ideas for homemade awning. Our kids have been taught to be minimalist as so they can make games out of rocks, paper and pencils...this Aframe is luxury camping to us already after tent camping over 12 yrs follow by tent trailer for 11.

The small size allows for quick and easy pull into a camp site and easy pop up is fantastic and fabulously and wonderfully appreciated over airing out tent after wet camping trip.

Oh yes, we store in our garage.

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Old 09-07-2015, 12:48 PM   #18
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We purchased the t21qbhw and fit 2 adults, w kids 8 and 11 and a golden doodle. The storage vs our previous pop up is much more. We camp outside and use inside for sleeping and when it rains. I also have cots with no middle rail that I will place over dinette when kids get bigger if needed. Love the 30 Second setup. I think if you outside camp great, if you spend a lot of time indoors maybe not.
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Old 09-07-2015, 03:26 PM   #19
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Samjs: can you please explain your configuration with the cot as our kids are 13 and 10. Eventually the front bed (45x80) will be too small and hubby and I may need to trade with the kids. If the cot works, it would be better. I am trying to use handbuilder's planks model ( use of 4 planks instead of the dinette as support for the bed) and perhaps modify it furher to expand the width of the front bed.
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Old 09-07-2015, 05:29 PM   #20
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I use discobed cots. You can buy an extra middle piece and shave off an inch or w as they are large.
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