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Old 07-18-2013, 04:26 PM   #31
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Gregory:

You bet I'll keep this forum posted on the dealers responses and how they handle ALL the problems. It just might help others who are deciding whether to buy or not to buy and from what dealer.

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Old 07-18-2013, 04:37 PM   #32
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Thats great, Jim! Its good you created a paper trail so the issues will be addressed! Look forward to reading about your outcome!

You did make me remember that my ourdoor showerhead leaks too. I forgot about that spraying me last time I attempted to use it....but I think it's an easy fix - prob just loose connection on the hand held sprayer....will have to remind DH to look at it.
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Old 07-18-2013, 07:31 PM   #33
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For what it's worth, my outside table delaminated the first time we went out, humid night I guess. The bamboo cutting board replacement is performing without issue. The interior table I replaced only because it was too heavy, the legs were in the way, and it was not very strong when used as a bed. Best of luck on your repairs!
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Old 07-21-2013, 06:31 AM   #34
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Rawlus:
I had read somewhere on this Forum that the outside shelf will fall apart if it gets wet. Personally, I find that peculiar that a company sells something to be used outdoors but if you leave it outdoors or if it gets wet, which it's bound to, it will fall apart. I would just assume that when you arrive at a campsite, you would hook up your outdoor propane grill and put the shelf next to it and leave it set up for the length of your trip. Does the manual say not to let the shelf get wet? I set up my Coleman propane stove at the end of the picnic table and leave it there all the time. I close the lid when I'm done cooking but I don't worry about it getting wet. With the lid closed, water doesn't even get inside the stove. It's made for that. I wish Forest River would monitor all these comments. I think they would learn some very interesting things about the products they are selling.

Incidentally, there were a lot of comments about moisture causing my problem with de-lamination. The camper has never been covered but what about the people who do cover theirs during the non camping season? I think it was Handbuilder who showed photos of making corner protective padding so the cover doesn't tear. A cover will really cause moisture between the camper and the cover and eventually wind up inside the camper, even with a breathable cover. Has Forest River taken that into consideration? Doesn't Forest River field test these campers before they start flooding the market with them?

I would dearly love to hear from some A-Liner folks on their experiences with their campers.

Another side note. I contacted Dometic and asked them in what country the A/C - Heat Pump units are manufactured that are in our A Frames. I'm waiting for a reply, if I get one. If I do, I'll post it.
Thanks for your input.

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The outside shelf will indeed delaminated if it gets wet, it is particleboard, all particleboard is succesptile to this.
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Old 07-28-2013, 08:42 AM   #36
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UPDATE: I received a response from my email to Dometic about where the units are manufactured. Their response was the thermostat controller is made in Asia but did not tell me where the entire unit is made.

While all this was going on, I had already ordered an ADCO 100% breathable cover for the camper. Since there were so many comments about moisture causing some of the problems, do I dare cover the camper over the few short winter months?

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Jim, several of us use that same ADCO cover on ours for the winter months. I had no trouble with mine and don't recall anyone else saying that they had. I padded the corners of the camper roof as a precaution against tearing, but I don't know if it was necessary. Before closing up and putting on the cover I put a container of desiccant (Damp Rid) inside. When I checked on it three months later there was just a small amount of water in the container. We had five big snows. Each of them melted off completely before the next storm, so there was plenty of chance for the cover to trap water if it were going to. After five months under cover it was snug and dry inside the camper when I opened it up, and no sign nor smell of mold or mildew.
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Old 07-28-2013, 09:00 AM   #38
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Hamguy:

Thank you for the input. It puts my mind at ease as to cover or not cover. All the "moisture" questions had me bewildered. (I already made foam corner covers, so I don't tear the cover, out of pipe insulation.)

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Delamination can also occur due to extreme heat, not just moisture. So many artices on heat related delams on google...I've never had probs using a cover on any of our RVs. Use the Damp Rid for humidity inside trailer. I keep it in there 24/7 - with more moisture collected this simmer than last fall, winter and spring! AND she's popped up in the ventilated shop, not stored in the down, closed position.
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Old 07-29-2013, 05:52 AM   #40
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Handbuilder:

I looked up Damp Rid at Walmart and they have 14 different variations. Which one is the one you use or recommend?

I am not familiar with that product, so, consequently, have no experience with it. In fact, I never heard of it.

I wonder what people do who reside in really hot areas of the country. The mid and south west gets much hotter than it does here and it would be interesting to know what they do to dissipate the heat and moisture.

I have a very good friend of mine that was a finishing cabinet maker and an excellent wood craftsman before he retired and I think I'll contact him and get his views on this. If it has anything to do with wood, he's an expert on it. I watched him build a complete bar, from scratch, for our local American Legion, in 2002 and that bar still looks brand new. And, of course, it has a formica top. Nothing sees more moisture than a bar top and it also is subject to heat build up from the beer/soda case motors under the bar, steam from filling the sinks with hot water etc. The bar has sinks at both ends and 4 beer/soda coolers. I'll get his take on this. But I still haven't seen any other posts on delam from any other F.R. owner. I still think it's shoddy workmanship!

Thanks for you help,

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