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Old 08-17-2013, 11:12 PM   #21
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We are picking up a T12RBST ( Has the storage bin on the front ) this Tuesday. There is not a lot of storage in the A frame. So the floor will be used to move stuff to and from camp site. Our thinking is what are we going to to with all that stuff when we get to the CG and that is put in the front storage bin when the tongue weight is not importance.

You said "This means that only 89 pounds can be added to make 350 pounds."
1 lb in the storage bin is not 1 lb of tongue weight, I am guessing it is .5 to .75 lb, so 89 more lb in tongue weight would be like 118 to 178 lb in the bin.
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Old 08-17-2013, 11:27 PM   #22
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I have the toyhauler model & the deck can carry 650 lbs. Tongue weight is 349 unloaded.

I love it! It fits us with its functional deck, allowing us to carry equipment and generator, bikes or whatever. Would your ATV actually fit the toy deck? Most of the 4wheelers Ive liked are too large for the deck, at least on paper. I originally looked at the storage box model and was certain that would be the one....but then I saw the toy deck & (for me) there was no looking back. Since I carry heavy equipment (wire dog crates, mats, dog soiled bedding, the open deck was jist what was needed. Nice to be able to toss a wet canopy or other muddy smelly things and go. Ive left many times in the rain & so glad I didnt have to put inside the trailer or truck.

Now they have the toy deck with a rear bed as well however, I prefer the sofa bed option as it gives more space for relaxing. I think you'll have to really evaluate what your most important needs are with wanting an A-frame camper & then go see them in person and sit in the models you are considering without a salesman present. Tell the salesman hes too distracting and this way you can hear yourself inside each one.
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Old 08-18-2013, 01:17 AM   #23
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Now I am leaning towards this one.

When I make my final pick it will be fast and quick so I can't change my mind anymore.
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Old 08-18-2013, 01:34 AM   #24
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Just a thought here...cant you put the ATV in the truck bed, then just pull whatever A-frame you want? They're pretty light.
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Btw, I really like the first one you showed with the deck. I'm sure there will be plenty of things you can store there other than the ATV.
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Also keep in mind, for everything you place in the storage areas behind the axle, you decrease the weight of the tongue by some amount. It's all about balancing your load to get the optimum setup. For example, slide an EZ Up style awning inside the camper with most of it behind the axle. That one 80# item can tip the fulcrum a bit.
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I have the toyhauler model & the deck can carry 650 lbs. Tongue weight is 349 unloaded.

I love it! It fits us with its functional deck, allowing us to carry equipment and generator, bikes or whatever. Would your ATV actually fit the toy deck? Most of the 4wheelers Ive liked are too large for the deck, at least on paper. I originally looked at the storage box model and was certain that would be the one....but then I saw the toy deck & (for me) there was no looking back. Since I carry heavy equipment (wire dog crates, mats, dog soiled bedding, the open deck was jist what was needed. Nice to be able to toss a wet canopy or other muddy smelly things and go. Ive left many times in the rain & so glad I didnt have to put inside the trailer or truck.

Now they have the toy deck with a rear bed as well however, I prefer the sofa bed option as it gives more space for relaxing. I think you'll have to really evaluate what your most important needs are with wanting an A-frame camper & then go see them in person and sit in the models you are considering without a salesman present. Tell the salesman hes too distracting and this way you can hear yourself inside each one.
That front deck really is perfect for how you use the camper, isn't it?
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Old 08-18-2013, 09:49 AM   #28
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Yes - its a great trailer to hit the dogshows with! We used to have a 34' motorhome that we traveled to shows with throughout S. Cal and Mexico. It was great but limiting (and expensive with gas cost). DH had work commitments and I lost my driver & began hoteling it but the expense and the work involved in shlepping several 40lb crates in and out of hotel rooms back and forth to the show grounds loading and unloading them and a two to three 100+ lb dogs is exhausting mentally and physically. Its so much nicer (easier) staying on the grounds. We sold the MH about 12 yrs later & eventually got a smallish travel trailer that I felt confident to pull. I kept it for 6 yrs and realized I never had a true comfort zone towing it & had to be extremely careful in loading the interior with equipment. I decided to sell it and DH said to look at hardsided pop up. When I disxovered that deck model, I was sold!! We also go gemming and digging, so the deck is great for carrying buckets and tools and such & the dogs travel in their crates in back of truck.

It really is all about how one uses for their interests. Its not surpriaing when I am at the shows, to give tours to other people (esp the lone exhibitor like me). Its a utilitarian rig with comfort needs while on the show circuit and its a fun camping rig when relaxing at the lake.
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Depending on what you need to travel with... We are able to camp comfortably without bringing the while garage with us, neither the front storage model or the toy haul or cargo models were available the first year of the a frames but over several trips we've been able to work out what we need for a typical trip, we leave the camper loaded and ready to go throughout the season and even have storage under the sink available if needed, we have no lack of storage and ended up getting rid of a lot of the dead weight, stuff we thought we needed, and had to carry, but in the end never really used or needed after all.

This simplifies our camping experience as well, because we are not always taking all these things that just take up space and that we are always working around to get what we actually need. Lots of pots and pans is a good example, we have enough cooking stuff to stock a modern residential home and we really only used a few pieces over and over and ignored the rest.
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We have the camper with the small storage rack on the front. It is great for the bicycles and the lawn chairs. We pull ours with a Ranger without any problems. We are very pleased with our choice.
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