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Old 01-24-2014, 05:53 PM   #11
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Our dealer said the group 24 battery that is supplied with the trailer is to small and upgraded the battery to a group 27 on his nickle. While he was at it I had him add a second one on my Nickle. I find that I can easy get 2 night on a battery or 4 days total.
As for gas. The nights were running about 30 degrees ( we had one night at 25* ) say an average 35 degrees say 60* during the day. It took 10 nights to run one tank of gas out. We set the temp to 62 at night, and higher during the day when we were not there. Hot water tank was off most of the time. We have all LED lights. The ice box was running on gas the whole time. We do not run our fan continual, only when the furnace is heating.
We do not sit much more then 4 days so we are moving often and the TV (Tow Vehicle ) charges the trailer battery. So far I have not use my solar cells or Gen.
Battery charging, as you know, will take up to 24 hours to bring a battery up to 100%. A battery can be charge fairly quickly from 50% to 80% in an hour or 2. It is even better to make it 1 hour in the morning and a hour in the afternoon if you need 2 hours. I would get a fair DVM to measure voltage so you have some idea what the battery is doing.

Also some have had luck getting the dealer to throw in the tent as part of a deal on the trailer.

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Old 01-24-2014, 05:58 PM   #12
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If you want to drive to wisconsin, I'm selling my barely used 2014 forest river rockwood a122bh. Pm me for details if interested.
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Old 01-24-2014, 06:49 PM   #13
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also it seems that the fiberglass likely is more durable and would last longer than the canvas of a popup
I had a 1988 Coleman Sequoia popup for 20 years. I never had a problem with the canvas.

You'll have a lot more room in a popup, but folding it up in the rain isn't a treat.
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Old 01-25-2014, 08:56 AM   #14
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I had a 1988 Coleman Sequoia popup for 20 years. I never had a problem with the canvas.

You'll have a lot more room in a popup, but folding it up in the rain isn't a treat.
I had a Coleman pop up too. Canvas durability never crossed my mind. For most of us, it doesn't get enough sun exposure over the life of the trailer to be of any consequence. The main worry is mildew from getting closed up wet. If it does get ruined, it is user replaceable. I sold mine to get an A-frame because, among many reasons, I too had closed mine in the rain one too many times. Another reason is the negative R value of canvas the made it practically impossible to cool in the long gulf coast summers. My A-frame solved these and other problems nicely.

Loki008, it sounds like your SAAB 9-5 TV is capable enough. But I would be sure on tongue weight before I bought one. Take a scale to your dealer and weigh the tongue of a trailer that has a battery and propane tanks on it. It may be close to 350#. My loaded A-122S is over 400#. Load balancing can help, somewhat, but the axle on FR a-frames is pretty far back and what little floor space there is behind the axle on an A-122 to put heavy items like coolers, won't offset much tongue weight.


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Old 01-25-2014, 12:24 PM   #15
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have to agree with tom here on the balancing of the trailer .. there really isnt much room for that due to the positioning of the axle/wheel assembly.
FR was offering a lifetime warranty too me when we bought our trailer too ... for an extra 100 bucks or so. I really had to quiz the dealer about this ... but got it anyways. it covers the exterior, interior wood stuctures, and the flooring. All the rest of the unit is covered by separate warranties by their respective manufacturer. So the bottom line of this is ... this warranty should never increase or effect the pricing of each unit.

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I too think tongue weight is going to be an issue. Given that you mentioned you have a class II hitch, I believe tongue weight limits on class ii are 300/350lbs..... You are close to the working edge there on tongue weight and getting close on trailer weight.

Assuming you are packing your truck/back end of the car for camping too.. I think that's pushing the vehicle to its max limits.. It's your car and all, but that plus it's front wheel drive (iirc) and you're going to the white mountains... Just seems like a lot of wear and tear on the vehicle. I would absolutely add a high efficiency tranny cooler here and you'll have to figure out how to hook up the electric brake system as well... You may even need additional suspension help due to the tongue weight.
So figure that into the cost of the camper.

I think if you're in the $10-12k range for price you should be satisfied.

I would explore the campers in your area and inquire if you can hook the camper up to your car just to see how much suspension droop you get. I would expect the fenders to drop very close to the tires....
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I too think tongue weight is going to be an issue. Given that you mentioned you have a class II hitch, I believe tongue weight limits on class ii are 300/350lbs..... You are close to the working edge there on tongue weight and getting close on trailer weight.

Assuming you are packing your truck/back end of the car for camping too.. I think that's pushing the vehicle to its max limits.. It's your car and all, but that plus it's front wheel drive (iirc) and you're going to the white mountains... Just seems like a lot of wear and tear on the vehicle. I would absolutely add a high efficiency tranny cooler here and you'll have to figure out how to hook up the electric brake system as well... You may even need additional suspension help due to the tongue weight.
So figure that into the cost of the camper.

I think if you're in the $10-12k range for price you should be satisfied.

I would explore the campers in your area and inquire if you can hook the camper up to your car just to see how much suspension droop you get. I would expect the fenders to drop very close to the tires....
I likely will not be loading up the back of the car all that much. I'd imagine most of the camping stuff would be stored under the bed (at leas the heavier stuff).

As for the suspension I am already planning on replacing my suspension with some Bilstein HD shocks as its getting about time to replace the shocks.
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I likely will not be loading up the back of the car all that much. I'd imagine most of the camping stuff would be stored under the bed (at leas the heavier stuff).
I also pack my camper not my TV. Cloths and the dry food box go in the camper. The fridge works very well so I don't usually take a cooler.

My TV does carry my bike and/or kayak, but that is a different matter.
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Old 02-03-2014, 05:44 PM   #19
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We paid close to the $15K out the door, but then we are in North California and we seem to pay more for stuff!
We have three of us in the A-frame for our camping trips; DH, myself and our teenage son who is now bigger than mom!! The reason we got the camper now was to take him on more camping trips since that is what he likes. Would rather enjoy our time with him before he gets to old to want to hang with mom and dad! It could get a bit crowded with four adults moving around, but should fit comfortably for sleeping and eating.
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Old 02-04-2014, 09:42 AM   #20
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Alright, I have decided to bite the bullet on the A122. Figured the slightly lower tongue weight would be appreciated for my TV.

After doing a ton of shopping around I decided to go with Vermont Country Campers as its not too bad of a drive for the pick up and I'll be able to make a bit of a weekend out of it and try out the camper before bringing it home.

Also there was the advantage of that they are just placing their orders right now and I was able to get one of the 122s units swapped out for a 122 and was able to save a bit. It should be in from Rockwood in about 4-6 weeks with plenty of time for the start of the summer.

Overall I was able to get the unit with the screen room for under $10k new. So i am quite pleased with this. It is worth the drive for sure as the local dealer here in CT wouldn't go below $12k without the screen room.

Now comes the hardest part, waiting. Thanks everyone for your input and advice
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