Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-22-2013, 11:01 PM   #1
Senior Member
 
lotsip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Cape Cod, Mass.
Posts: 223
My first look under my A122 was "Yikes"

Just got my new A122, anyone see anything wrong of the pics i took of its "underbelly" ? Maybe its just me......?
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	DCP_1457.jpg
Views:	249
Size:	56.2 KB
ID:	23309   Click image for larger version

Name:	DCP_1459.jpg
Views:	183
Size:	61.6 KB
ID:	23310   Click image for larger version

Name:	DCP_1460.jpg
Views:	198
Size:	61.0 KB
ID:	23311   Click image for larger version

Name:	DCP_1466.jpg
Views:	177
Size:	59.8 KB
ID:	23312   Click image for larger version

Name:	DCP_1463.jpg
Views:	171
Size:	57.3 KB
ID:	23313  

__________________
lotsip is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2013, 11:08 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
lotsip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Cape Cod, Mass.
Posts: 223
More pics of the underbelly......

just doesn't look tidy enough to me ;/
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	DCP_1461.jpg
Views:	206
Size:	57.5 KB
ID:	23314   Click image for larger version

Name:	DCP_1462.jpg
Views:	169
Size:	58.6 KB
ID:	23315   Click image for larger version

Name:	DCP_1464.jpg
Views:	163
Size:	55.2 KB
ID:	23316   Click image for larger version

Name:	DCP_1465.jpg
Views:	175
Size:	53.0 KB
ID:	23317   Click image for larger version

Name:	DCP_1467.jpg
Views:	180
Size:	61.8 KB
ID:	23318  

__________________
lotsip is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013, 12:16 AM   #3
Senior Member
 
wyo700's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 903
The wires near my brake drums were about the same on my sand storm so I tied them up better. Maybe to could get under there and with a little time and wire ties you could get it it little nicer for your liking.
__________________
2012 Sandstorm 203slc
2013 Toyota Tundra
Eqil-l-izer hitch,Prodigy P3
2014 Honda Pioneer 700-4
2004 Yamaha Grizzly 660
wyo700 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013, 12:19 AM   #4
Senior Member
 
lotsip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Cape Cod, Mass.
Posts: 223
Quote:
Originally Posted by wyo700 View Post
The wires near my brake drums were about the same on my sand storm so I tied them up better. Maybe to could get under there and with a little time and wire ties you could get it it little nicer for your liking.
I was thinking of doing that, but, first, i wanted to see if it appeared "normal"....so much going on under there, but, never looked under an RV before, so, I wanted to get the opinion of the veterans here, thanks so much for your input !
__________________
lotsip is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013, 12:21 AM   #5
Senior Member
 
Grizzlygibbs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Pacific NW
Posts: 326
I am a little surprised there is exposed plywood under there.
Grizzlygibbs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013, 12:31 AM   #6
Senior Member
 
lotsip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Cape Cod, Mass.
Posts: 223
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grizzlygibbs View Post
I am a little surprised there is exposed plywood under there.
Hopefully its treated. ?
__________________
lotsip is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013, 03:55 AM   #7
Senior Member
 
handbuilder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Washington state
Posts: 1,258
The floor is engineered OSB and has a 25 year warranty

I had the same concern when I looked underneath it and asked the service tech during the PDI. He said it is designed to withstand normal wear and tear and under such, should not swell or delaminate provided it is NOT sealed. It is bonded with special resins that meet specific tests for use hence in our trailers, the 25 year warranty in the given RV application of use.
__________________

2012 FR Flagstaff T12SDTH
1996 Shadowcruiser Pop Up Truck Camper
1967 Newell Motorcoach
2003 Ford F150 5.4 V8 Triton Super Cab
2004 Nissan Titan LE 5.6 V8 4x4 Crew Cab
handbuilder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013, 06:03 AM   #8
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Omaha,Nebraska
Posts: 381
The underside of my A128S looked about the same. I just took some zip ties and took the slop out of the wiring and tidyed up as best I could. My last P/U also looked the same so it must be a manufacturing thing, throw em together as fast as you can and forget how it looks underneath. Besides, just how many people do crawl under their camper to look at the under belly?
__________________
2021 Apex Nano 191RBS OFF GRID
2017 Chevy Colorado Z71 4x4 3.6 L
backpacker3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013, 08:16 AM   #9
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Orange Texas
Posts: 790
Send a message via MSN to Tiggerdad
Watch the bottom of your rig regardless of warranty. Water will will make it swell and continued wetness will make it come apart. Who will warranty for 25 years. Surely not the manufacturer of the rig. Manufacturer of the OSB will probably pay for the cost of the wood but not replacement. If you plan on keeping it for a while, I would look at having Coroplast cover the bottom.
__________________

2013 Crusader 330 MKS
2013 Chevrolet Silverado LT 2500 D/A
Tiggerdad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013, 08:55 AM   #10
Senior Member
 
handbuilder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Washington state
Posts: 1,258
The manufacturer will either
1) pay reasonable cost of repairing or replacing the defetctive panel & any affected floor covering or 2) refund up to 3x the original purchase price paid for the panel by the OEM

It still is a wood product and therefore should not be left in the river or lake to soak or in high moisure environments...Driving in the rain with water splashing up at it is not going to cause a major problem - that woild be normal use, unlike leaving it in a flood or standing water

Looking at the brochures (& also talking with the service tech at our time of purchase) it appears that all of Forest Rivers folding tent/camping trailers have this kind of floor...if there were problems with the floor, we'd probably have heard about it by now? If not in this forum bit even the tent camper forum?

Coroplast would be a great solution if one lived in a moist environment esp if it eased the mind if one is having continued worry or concerns for product quality & maintaining the unit's floor.
__________________

2012 FR Flagstaff T12SDTH
1996 Shadowcruiser Pop Up Truck Camper
1967 Newell Motorcoach
2003 Ford F150 5.4 V8 Triton Super Cab
2004 Nissan Titan LE 5.6 V8 4x4 Crew Cab
handbuilder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013, 09:02 AM   #11
Site Team - Lou
 
Herk7769's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: South Eastern PA
Posts: 23,268
Quote:
Originally Posted by handbuilder View Post
The manufacturer will either
1) pay reasonable cost of repairing or replacing the defetctive panel & any affected floor covering or 2) refund up to 3x the original purchase price paid for the panel by the OEM

It still is a wood product and therefore should not be left in the river or lake to soak or in high moisure environments...Driving in the rain with water splashing up at it is going to cause a major problem - that woild be normal use, unlike leaving it in a flood or standing water

All of Forest Rivers folding tent/camping trailers have this kind of floor...if there were major problems with the floor, I think we'd have heard about it by now...
I am thinking you meant "NOT going to cause a major problem."
__________________
Lou & Freya the wonder dog
2008 GMC Sierra 3000HD Allison Duramax
2019 Flagstaff 8529FL
Herk7769 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013, 09:22 AM   #12
Senior Member
 
handbuilder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Washington state
Posts: 1,258
Yes! I just caught that & went back to edit. You're fast!! ROFL sometimes when typing on my mobile phone I come up with some interesting things...I turned off the feature that types for me - that was hilarious. Thanks Herk!
__________________

2012 FR Flagstaff T12SDTH
1996 Shadowcruiser Pop Up Truck Camper
1967 Newell Motorcoach
2003 Ford F150 5.4 V8 Triton Super Cab
2004 Nissan Titan LE 5.6 V8 4x4 Crew Cab
handbuilder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013, 09:50 AM   #13
Senior Member
 
lotsip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Cape Cod, Mass.
Posts: 223
Quote:
Originally Posted by handbuilder View Post
The floor is engineered OSB and has a 25 year warranty

I had the same concern when I looked underneath it and asked the service tech during the PDI. He said it is designed to withstand normal wear and tear and under such, should not swell or delaminate provided it is NOT sealed. It is bonded with special resins that meet specific tests for use hence in our trailers, the 25 year warranty in the given RV application of use.
25 year warranty will outlive me for sure, haha, thanks.

I was a bit more concerned with the copper tubing, exposed to rocks and other road hazards bouncing up and hitting it, and not seemingly held to the floor with much, and the other lines, wires, etc, which look like they could use some tightening up......maybe i will get under there with a bunch of snap ties today. Thinking of leaving for Florida this weekend !
__________________
lotsip is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013, 09:54 AM   #14
Always Learning
 
ependydad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Four Corners, FL
Posts: 21,891
I know the old Coleman pop-ups specifically recommended AGAINST sealing the wood or covering it with anything so that any moisture that did get in could get back out.

As for wiring, that seems "normal".
__________________
Officially a SOB with a 2022 Jayco Precept 36C
Checkout my site for RVing tips, tricks, and info | Was a Fulltime Family for 5 years, now we're part-timing on long trips
ependydad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013, 09:58 AM   #15
Mostly Harmless
 
thehamguy1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Central Iowa
Posts: 835
I've pulled our unit hundreds of miles in the rain (and worse--heavy, clinging mud). No problem with the floor as long as it can dry out, which it couldn't if it were covered with anything. Your owners packet should have something about the floor saying that under no circumstances should it be coated or covered.

We've all had much the same reaction to looking underneath. The suggestion to neaten it up with wire ties is a good one for esthetics but won't make a difference otherwise. Point-to-point wiring and piping is less expensive to install and the stuff that goes through it doesn't care.

Having said that, I did take some old garden hose and split it lengthwise to cover both the brake wires crossing the axle and the parts of the gas lines running side to side. I used duct tape to hold it in place. That was done after seeing what hundreds of miles of gravel can do to copper pipe and--surprisingly--to wire ties.

So the good news is that you're right on track with the new owner experience. Have a great trip!
__________________
It's never too late to have a happy childhood!
Lee, WU0V, and Courtenay, N0ZDT
2011 Rockwood A128
2000 Silverado 1500 pickup
60W solar system
2000W inverter generator
thehamguy1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013, 10:00 AM   #16
Senior Member
 
lotsip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Cape Cod, Mass.
Posts: 223
Wink

Quote:
Originally Posted by backpacker3 View Post
The underside of my A128S looked about the same. I just took some zip ties and took the slop out of the wiring and tidyed up as best I could. My last P/U also looked the same so it must be a manufacturing thing, throw em together as fast as you can and forget how it looks underneath. Besides, just how many people do crawl under their camper to look at the under belly?
I'm going to do the zip tie tidying up thing today, and, make a note to myself to NOT drive off road through the Everglades

Actually, i was thinking Maine mountains in the spring...all rough dirt logging roads up there. Sure wish they had skid plates for trailers, like my Tacoma has.
__________________
lotsip is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013, 10:07 AM   #17
Senior Member
 
lotsip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Cape Cod, Mass.
Posts: 223
Quote:
Originally Posted by thehamguy1 View Post
I've pulled our unit hundreds of miles in the rain (and worse--heavy, clinging mud). No problem with the floor as long as it can dry out, which it couldn't if it were covered with anything. Your owners packet should have something about the floor saying that under no circumstances should it be coated or covered.

We've all had much the same reaction to looking underneath. The suggestion to neaten it up with wire ties is a good one for esthetics but won't make a difference otherwise. Point-to-point wiring and piping is less expensive to install and the stuff that goes through it doesn't care.

So the good news is that you're right on track with the new owner experience. Have a great trip!
Thanks, I will, and thanks for putting my mind at ease. !
__________________
lotsip is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013, 10:12 AM   #18
Senior Member
 
lotsip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Cape Cod, Mass.
Posts: 223
Quote:
Originally Posted by thehamguy1 View Post
I've pulled our unit hundreds of miles in the rain (and worse--heavy, clinging mud). No problem with the floor as long as it can dry out, which it couldn't if it were covered with anything. Your owners packet should have something about the floor saying that under no circumstances should it be coated or covered.

We've all had much the same reaction to looking underneath. The suggestion to neaten it up with wire ties is a good one for esthetics but won't make a difference otherwise. Point-to-point wiring and piping is less expensive to install and the stuff that goes through it doesn't care.

Having said that, I did take some old garden hose and split it lengthwise to cover both the brake wires crossing the axle and the parts of the gas lines running side to side. I used duct tape to hold it in place. That was done after seeing what hundreds of miles of gravel can do to copper pipe and--surprisingly--to wire ties.

So the good news is that you're right on track with the new owner experience. Have a great trip!
Its about 10 degrees out today, and not much relief in temperature between now and when I am leaving for Florida, hopefully this weekend, so the garden hose suggestion will wait til i get to Florida or in the spring here, before I hit the logging roads in Maine.......Thanks !!
__________________
lotsip is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013, 11:40 AM   #19
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Orange Texas
Posts: 790
Send a message via MSN to Tiggerdad
I am not trying to be negative but I would like to see that 25 year warranty in writing and also a statement that that floor will be replaced at no charge to the owner. There may not be any issues reported on this forum but it is well known in other forums that OSB will not stand up to repeated water. It is difficult to dry out where objects make contact with the wood.

My Crusader has an OSB floor but it is protected from the elements. My previous rig had 2 spots to rot out in 4 years and it had Coroplast. One was on a slide where the edge was exposed. Another was near the entrance door where, evidently, it got wet a number of times.

I would not trust the word of a service tech. and a brochure that does not specifically spell out what will be done if a failure means nothing.
__________________

2013 Crusader 330 MKS
2013 Chevrolet Silverado LT 2500 D/A
Tiggerdad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013, 12:57 PM   #20
Senior Member
 
Jeep4Two's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Louisville, Kentucky
Posts: 615
My documentation packet included a warranty sheet on the flooring. I don't have access to it right now to read the specifics but I do recall that it was a 25 year warranty.

So it is a written warranty. How cost to replace the flooring are handled is another question, but should be spelled out in the warranty document.
__________________
Jeep4Two
2011 FR Rockwood Premiere A126 Hard Side
TV=2011 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 2 Dr
Reese 66065 WDH, Curt WDH Shank #17120
Prodigy P2 Brake Controller, Mopar 7-pin Harness
B&M Transmission Cooler (#70268)
Jeep4Two is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
a122

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by Forest River, Inc. or any of its affiliates. This is an independent, unofficial site.



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:07 AM.