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Old 09-04-2015, 08:47 PM   #11
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I think my front storage box has sticker that says 150 lbs limit.
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Old 09-05-2015, 05:07 PM   #12
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It's worth the expense to purchase a Sherline tongue scale to verify the correct tongue weight. It's easy to use and it's a reliable product.

Dry (advertised) tongue weight on my toyhauler is 335 lbs. Usong the Sherline tongue scale, here is the weight with two full propane tanks and battery, one full Aquatainer, one empty Aquatainer and the cords, hoses, chairs and other stuff as shown inside the tool chest (see photos)
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Old 09-06-2015, 08:32 AM   #13
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bathroom scale

Weighing anything heavier than the scale capacity is extremely dependant on the placement of the item on the lever used. Scale+board+support of equal hieght of scale pad spaced 12" apart. Load at center of board. Multiply scale weight by two.
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Old 09-06-2015, 10:00 AM   #14
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Thank you all for your comments and suggestion. We think we resolved it somewhat while searching for a reasonably price Shireline tongue scale on sale.

This is what we did:

- we removed the mattress that comes with A122S and replaced with 5" two 27x80" foam at a place here in Calgary. We found the foam is firmer on our backs which we need. That reduced pur rear weight by 45 lb hence that could have increased our tongue weight by 15 lb ( seems the weight behind the axle adds about 1/3 to the tongue jack).
- next we put 75 lb of water in the storage under the bed and that dropped the tpngue weight by 25 lb.
- we put all our pots and pans, coleman stove, solar panel, cutlery, shore power cable, axes etc in the back storage.
- we took out the two propane tanks and place one in the milk crate and will put above the axle when travel. We only use one during travelling ( we dry camped all these years in Northern part of Alberta and BC and still had not needed the furnace on. One propane tank lasts us the whole summer of a few weeks camping. That dropped our tongue weight by 60 lb ( instead of 74 lb... Did not make sense to me as each full propane weigh 37 lb each). Still a reduction in tongue weight made me happy as we are trying to meet approx 350 lb - 2003 highlander spec for hitch weight.

- 35 lb of an extra cooler full of food in the storage reduced tongue weight by about 11 lb

- 25 lb of food in the storage lifted the tongue weight by 8 lb

Final tongue weight with only two 6v batteries, electric tongue jack( came with our trailer), cable etc. on the tongue is now about 380 lb when compare to the original 600 lbs. now we will check the sag and sway when hook up to the TV before we take off in a couple of weeks for a weekend in the mountainous rockies and will update the forum.

Thank you again.

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Old 09-06-2015, 10:16 AM   #15
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Forgot to add that our front storage has folding chairs, rv mat, kids' water gun, bats and balls so all of which are quite light in the max 150 lb storage limit. We limit the weight also to reduce the tongue weight.
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I'm not an expert, by any stretch of the imagination, but if I were pulling my a122s with a smaller vehicle. ..I would feel more comfortable being heavy on the tongue and getting a wdh to even out.. than moving weight behind the axle.
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Old 09-06-2015, 10:39 AM   #17
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Hi Chuck: yes i am looking into the WDH as well. I am getting controversial comments from the dealer about our vehicle capability and WDH. We pulled it last month for a week and half with all the weight on the tongue ( two propane and two batteries, solar, stove in the front storage and food on the axle). I could definitely see the sag in the rear of the TV but we had no sway issues and the tow was good. Almost no different than the tent trailer towing that we'd done in the last 11 years.
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Old 09-06-2015, 10:46 AM   #18
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Does the hitch have a sticker that states max tongue weight and max WDH weight allowed? I know a lot of 1/2 ton PU trucks that have a maximum tongue weight of 600 lbs, so wondering what it would be on SUV.
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Old 09-06-2015, 10:51 AM   #19
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We have hidden hitch supplied by the Toyota dealer at the time but installed by the tent trailer RV mechanic when we bought our tent trailer 11 yrs ago. It did indicate 5000 lb rating, 2" but not sure what the tongue weight is...10% perhaps of 5000 lb...500 lb. our suv can only pull 3500 lb according to spec.
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Adding weight over and behind the axle could possibly exceed the weight limit of the tires. Something you might want to check. Also check your
tire pressure when tires are cold. I run max cold pressure as shown on the sidewall of the tires. Towing speed comes into play also. With all the negative press about Chinese trailer tire blowouts, I try to limit my speed to 58 mph. YMMV
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