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Old 11-04-2015, 12:54 PM   #11
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On the A122, the alarm and the converter (and the furnace and the hot water heater) are mounted into the driver's side dinette base. I had to unscrew the driver's side dinette seat to access the back of the converter and the alarm wiring.

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Old 11-04-2015, 01:01 PM   #12
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Mine is the same setup. Alarm set is installed directly below the converter, tangle of wiring just above all this. So won't be able to actually see the alarm set up before cutting. So should I just feel for the alarm wires/two? leading to the back of the converter?
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Old 11-04-2015, 03:16 PM   #13
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On my A122, the alarm is above the converter. So I removed the seat top, reached in, and cut the red wire to the alarm where it entered a crimped wire nut. This did not shut the chirping off, so I cut the other wire and removed the alarm out of the camper, thinking it must have an internal battery backup. The alarm wires do not go directly to any panel - they are wire nutted to other wires in the rat's nest.

The actual cause of the chirping was the smoke alarm on the ceiling right above me - the smoke alarm 9V battery was dead. Chalk up another SPUT (stupid pop-up trick) for me.

Forest River uses crimped wire nuts instead of screw-on wire nuts for their wire connections - at least in the A-frames. So you have to cut the wire instead of unscrewing the connection. There is no rhyme or reason to the wire colors in the rat's nest behind the converter. So I would mark what the alarm wires connect to before you cut. Don't ask how I learned this! I would also make sure you do this visually rather than just by feel. Yes, you will have pull the rat's nest apart (very gently, some of those crimps were not done well) to get a visual on the alarm wires.

Going to reinstall the alarm, I spent almost an hour examining every wire nut in the maze to find the 2 wire nuts that had very short red and black tails still connected. Then I had to cut and reconnect all the wires in each of the 2 wire nuts.

One of these days......I'm going to get serious and replace that rat's nest with a set of labeled bus bars and real screw and lug connections.....one of these days.

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Old 11-05-2015, 08:16 PM   #14
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Thanks Fred, my son checked the battery today to verify, it is very good. He promises when he has time in a few weeks to sort out the wiring harness and remove the CO detector/unnecessary baggage in my opinion. Thanks for the insight into the mess!
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Old 11-06-2015, 08:26 AM   #15
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Dobefanatic, I wonder if there is anything on RVs that create more irritation than those alarms. I had an experience similar to your's, not on my present A-frame, but on a prior Forest River trailer. The alarm just refused to quit, no matter what I did. When I found out that a low battery would set it off, I spent all kinds of time fooling around with that only to discover when I put a volt meter on the battery that there was nothing wrong with it. I finally took the alarm out and brought it to the dealer. He took one look at it, and sent a technician out to check the battery on the trailer. I guess he thought I didn't know how to check a battery's voltage. He finally admitted that the alarm was no d____d good and gave me a new one. I installed it in the trailer and end of problem.

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Dobefanatic, I wonder if there is anything on RVs that create more irritation than those alarms. I had an experience similar to your's, not on my present A-frame, but on a prior Forest River trailer. The alarm just refused to quit, no matter what I did. When I found out that a low battery would set it off, I spent all kinds of time fooling around with that only to discover when I put a volt meter on the battery that there was nothing wrong with it. I finally took the alarm out and brought it to the dealer. He took one look at it, and sent a technician out to check the battery on the trailer. I guess he thought I didn't know how to check a battery's voltage. He finally admitted that the alarm was no d____d good and gave me a new one. I installed it in the trailer and end of problem.

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Yeah kdot, I really have had enough of this. Came back from a great trip Florida to Ohio, camped in SC, enjoyed the Fall leaves through the Virginia's and can't seem to get away from servicing this camper.It sat with only battery power for a week in OH with no issues, now at how again, nothing but trouble. I put it on shore power 24 hrs ago and no alarms so far. Now back to battery for few days, guessing the alarm will sound again. Can't wait to get it OUT ! The cost to replace it is ridiculous. Will put in a portable CO alarm and smell for propane as needed. Bad work from Forest River: my stove top came loose several times, microwave door hanging on arrival- still works, go figure!
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Yeah, Dobefanatic, after going through this process myself, I feel your frustration. As I recall, however, since my RV was on warranty, I never paid for the replacement alarm, and I took it out and put the replacement in myself. Wasn't that hard to do. Just cut the two (as I recall) wires in the back of the alarm, then stripped and attached them to the wires from the replacement alarm. As I recall, all it took was a couple of wire nuts to make the connection.
The other PIA alarm in the trailer, the smoke alarm, is another source of constant problems. I swear that if you pass gas in the wrong direction in the trailer, it will alarm. I shut it off by pulling the battery out, then discovered you can't snap the cover back down without the battery in it. It's a fiendish plot. I put the cover down as far as it would go, then taped the d___d thing to the ceiling.

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Old 11-08-2015, 11:01 PM   #18
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Well to finish this issue: son checked and battery was fine Thursday morn, so put on shore power anyway overnight. Friday I stopped shore power, battery working fine, waiting for alarm to finally sound. Sunday night and no further alarms... now I'm really wondering what this was all about ! No doubt it will trip me up again when I least expect it!
EDIT It is now 11:21 pm and the alarm went off !!! First time since Friday morn.
Disgusting, got to be defective, time to remove it permanently as planned.
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The cost to replace it is ridiculous. Will put in a portable CO alarm and smell for propane as needed. Bad work from Forest River: my stove top came loose several times, microwave door hanging on arrival- still works, go figure!
If you install a separate CO detector, the replacement propane only (without CO detection) unit is about $50 from Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/MTI-Industries...opane+detector
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Thanks, that's good to know:
If you install a separate CO detector, the replacement propane only (without CO detection) unit is about $50 from Amazon:
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