Originally Posted by ziggy52
Can you store your a frame in your garage when not in use? Will it fit?
I am thinking of getting an A frame. Would you advise to get one with a bathroom set up or without? If you set up the table for a bed for an adult is it comfortable and roomy? The bed and table seem to be larger if you leave out the bathroom.
I have tent camped for 45 years and done extensive long distance bicycle touring and decided to have a new adventure.
Thanks for your input.
We picked the base model A122 specifically because it would fit comfortably in our 19.5ft garage stall. Lack of the extra storage in the bigger models was no big deal to us because we wanted to keep everything simple enough to make an overnight trip pleasurable without much effort on our part.
Other requirements: Had to tow with our minivan. Total cost less than $15K (we stayed several thousand under).
Previously, we had owned a Coleman Westlake (12ft box) PUP. We carried bicycles for the family on the roof, and generally took too much stuff, along with friends for the kids. Overnighters were just too much work.
But we learned from our previous experience that we never used the "indoor" toilet and shower due to privacy issues with teenage kids. It was just easier and simpler to use campground facilities. The included Portapotty gives us a tax deduction for the loan interest.
Garage storage lets us decide to go on a trip (or not go if the weather is awful) with about 2 hours prep. Ideally, I plug in the camper to charge batteries and pre-cool the fridge a night or two before. Bedding, kitchen stuff (except for food), cold weather camp clothing, etc., is permanently stored in the A-frame, and refreshed after a trip. Morning of trip, we load 2 medium coolers with food and drink, a gym bag of clothes and bathroom kit, EZ-up, and outdoor carpet for camper door into the minivan. I unplug, add water to tank (if needed), hook up, and go.
For comfortable sleep, we added mattress toppers for both dinette bed and main bed. Both are now as comfortable as our bed at home.
To run heater while dry camping for up to 4 nights, we added dual 6V golf cart batteries (232 AH each). If the dog comes with us on a trip, I usually sleep on the dinette. That way I don't crawl over DW to take dog out or go for an early morning walk.
There is little floor space in an A122. There's barely enough floor space for both of us to stand at the same time (I'm chubby). Getting dressed/changed is one person at a time.
The dinette table is unnecessarily heavy. Someday, I will build a lighter replacement.
Good Things (compared to normal Pop-Up):
Rockwood A-frames come very well equipped standard. Microwave, car stereo, LED lighting inside, outside shower (we use for hot water source for picnic table), dual propane tanks, spare tire, external lights and speaker, coax in, blinds or curtains for windows. We added mattress toppers and 2 battery setup.
Very fast setup and take-down. I can single-handedly setup entire site in 45 minutes. Most difficult and time-consuming item is EZ-up over the picnic table.
Fits in garage. In new house, I can open the A-frame inside the garage.
Tows very nicely with Equalizer WDH/anti-sway. DW is comfortable driving rig while towing - it's that good. Ready to camp weight is about 2,800 lbs.
2014 Rockwood A122 A-frame
2008 Hyundai Entourage minivan
camping Colorado and adjacent states one weekend at a time