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Old 03-01-2013, 12:27 PM   #11
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We use a blue Aquatainer for general purpose water needs & bring along a case of Costco brand bottled water for our drinking and cooking needs. An extra (empty) 5 gallon bucket is always useful to throw odds and ends stuff in and uaeful if needing a place to drain sink water.
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Old 03-01-2013, 01:44 PM   #12
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Like most everyone else, we don't travel with our Aframe's fresh water tank full. We fill at the campground before going to the campsite or use the city water hookup if available on the campsite. We take a milk jug (or two) of tap water from home for coffee and bottled water for drinking. Thing is, we have the luxury of space in our tow vehicle for stuff like that. It seems like wayfaringgirl is limited in that area.

I wonder what she is thinking about all this...she's been kind of quiet.

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Old 03-01-2013, 02:47 PM   #13
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Wayfaringgirl, hope we didnt scare you away from the thought of getting an A-Frame? The bike hauler model might be a perfect fit for you & your pups! Floor space is great in the toyhauler but also consider how much time you'd actually be inside it...I use mine to haul all my stuff to my destination, then set everything outside, under a portable canopy. At the shows, I usually have a friend who bunks with me & she sets up her own canopy with her equipment under it. When my spouse and I use it, we have more space indoor since we use the same bed & we're inside only if weather and sleep force us indoors. LOL The dogs stay outside in their crates...they like to see whats going on which is better for us since they are so big. Our canopy has zippered sides so they are enclosed when its bed time. I face the opening to the doorside of my trailer so I can see & talk to them thru the window.
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Old 03-01-2013, 09:35 PM   #14
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Thats the only thing I wish Forest River would include is a hitch on the back of the trailers. I would love to take my bikes, but I need a rack that has the full wheel clamps. Unfortunately my Kona Coilair Supreme has a 20mm thru axle on the front so the fork mount won't work. I have a hitch style platform rack which works awesome.

They finally released a roof rack for the 2013 Santa Fe's (With glass roof) so I may go with a roof rack and do it that way. Just sucks I sold my roof bike racks awhile ago.
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Check this bike rack I got http://www.support-rack.com/wsf/produits/
Since the tongue weight is close to my limit of 350 pounds(front storage box adds a lot of weight), I take out the propane tanks during the trip. This will be way easier to load your bikes then putting them on your roof. Bike rack on the rear is not recommended by FR.

The bike rack is a 2" receiver so your hitch bike rack could be used here. It was too big for my bike rack so I got a receiver adaptor to make it smaller.

BTW I am considering the Sante Fe for my next TV, please let us know how the mileage is when towing. Is it true the 4cyl Turbo AWD model is good for towing?
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Old 03-02-2013, 11:30 PM   #15
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Actually I am picking up my A122S on Tuesday morning. Only took a month for it to come in. But ya I have the 2.0T AWD. I think it will be decent for towing. Has tons of power and torque but I guess we will see.

Speaking of tongue weight have you measured your tongue weight without the propane tanks on? I am guessing with the tanks it will be around 311lbs. Just wondering what it is with the bike rack and bikes.
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Old 03-03-2013, 01:31 AM   #16
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Speaking of tongue weight have you measured your tongue weight without the propane tanks on? I am guessing with the tanks it will be around 311lbs. Just wondering what it is with the bike rack and bikes.
I was surprise to get over 400 lbs tongue weight after getting my A128S from the dealer(2 full tanks on). Check out my thread, it contains information about this and more, post #38 of this page:A128S Converted from ALINER Ranger
With the 2 bikes on and putting heavy stuff in the rear of the trailer(including the 2 tanks), my tongue weight was 370 lbs on my trips. I'll try to do better next time. It actually goes down to 340 lbs when the water tank is full. Approx 20 lbs for the rack + 60 lbs for 2 bikes. Empty propane tanks is 18 lbs so 2 full tanks is over 70 lbs.

Since your Aframe has the front storage too, you may have the same issues I'm having. Did you get a 2" receiver(I don't)? Consider a WD if sagging becomes an issue for you. Also measure how much your front tire wells raises after hitching, less than half an inch is ok.

Enjoy your new Aframe, and post pics too
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Old 03-03-2013, 11:23 AM   #17
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I was surprise to get over 400 lbs tongue weight after getting my A128S from the dealer(2 full tanks on). Check out my thread, it contains information about this and more, post #38 of this page:A128S Converted from ALINER Ranger
With the 2 bikes on and putting heavy stuff in the rear of the trailer(including the 2 tanks), my tongue weight was 370 lbs on my trips. I'll try to do better next time. It actually goes down to 340 lbs when the water tank is full. Approx 20 lbs for the rack + 60 lbs for 2 bikes. Empty propane tanks is 18 lbs so 2 full tanks is over 70 lbs.

Since your Aframe has the front storage too, you may have the same issues I'm having. Did you get a 2" receiver(I don't)? Consider a WD if sagging becomes an issue for you. Also measure how much your front tire wells raises after hitching, less than half an inch is ok.

Enjoy your new Aframe, and post pics too

I do have a 2" receiver, unfortunately when I bought my hitch they only had the Curt hitch which was non WD. They do have WD hitches out now but I am a little worried about using it on a unibody frame.

To help my suspension I did put Firestone air helper bags in and the WirelessOne remote air compressor system. Obviously this won't help with putting weight back on the front tires but it will help me from not bottoming out and killing my suspension.

When I receive it I will weigh it with the Sherline tongue jack scale and post what the weights are. I have a feeling I will be doing the weight shuffle to try to get it down near the 350# mark.
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Old 03-03-2013, 12:25 PM   #18
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http://www.etrailer.com/Tools/Sherline/5780.html, how much did you get it and where? I got a $20 spring scale max load is 400 lbs and did this to get my reading: Click image for larger version

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I am hoping that someone could tell us that the way I get my readings is +/- lbs off the real tongue weight because of the location of the scale.

I am very interested on your reading. I made sure that the trailer is level when I got the scale reading.
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Old 03-03-2013, 12:46 PM   #19
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From Atlas Machinery Supply in Toronto for $146 Canadian. Was cheaper to get it shipped from there to Calgary then to pay for it from esupply and pay brokerage and customs. Plus I ordered a battery for my Makita drills while I was at it lol.

This is how they say to measure tongue weight with a scale but... Measuring trailer tongue weight with a bathroom scale. Obviously that doesn't answer your question but I would imagine +- 1%. The jack is fairly far forward so it should be fairly close.
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Old 03-04-2013, 10:10 PM   #20
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I am an owner of another brand of A frame trailer. I have about 3 weeks of camping in it since getting it last September. I travel with my faithful lab.

My trailer came with a twin size "bunk bed" set up in the front. Since the bottom bunk was just cushions thrown on the floor, it was easy to take those out and put a lab sized dog bed down there instead. Two labs could fit under there easily. Instead, I keep a large plastic container of kitchen stuff down there and the folding step stool that I need to reach the ceiling vents.

My trailer has a factory built plastic bin on the front. It holds quite a bit of stuff and I've never had it stuffed full.

My gray water drains in to a small, two gallon container. It is easier to empty a small container more frequently than lugging a bigger, heavy one for me. My trailer, which I got used, came with a contraption that I should try out. A hose that hooks to the drain and then hooks up to a collapsable container. It is supposed to not overflow, if that is a concern.

I took out the dinette table. It was heavy and just didn't fit well. I substituted a smaller fold up table for that. I sleep on the upper "bunk" so don't need to convert the dinette into a bed. I've even set up a comfy lawn chair in that space when the weather was bad. I have a smaller plastic bin for towels, and clothes travel in a duffel bag.

That's it. The last trip was 8 days and different climates so a lot of clothing was needed. I'm also switching to using a sleeping bag instead of regular bedding. My lab has adapted well and settles right down in his cozy den.

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