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Old 10-30-2015, 10:15 AM   #11
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Normally gets 19 to 22 drops down to 16 and 18 while pulling the camper with the bed of the truck fully loaded with firewood and our drink coolers.
We have gone from Clermont Florida to Black rock Mountain Georgia near Clayton on one and a half tanks that was close to 640 miles. I would have bought a Toyota Tacoma but the dealer was really nasty wouldn't unlock the door for me to sit in it to compare unless I give them a copy of my drivers license a copy of my insurance card and two forms of reference with phone numbers.
I'm 58 years old with my wife and a dog what did he think, that I was going to steal.
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Old 10-30-2015, 10:34 AM   #12
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I would have bought a Toyota Tacoma but the dealer was really nasty wouldn't unlock the door for me to sit in it to compare unless I give them a copy of my drivers license a copy of my insurance card and two forms of reference with phone numbers.
I'm 58 years old with my wife and a dog what did he think, that I was going to steal.
That's a good one never heard of that being done just to sit in a truck. Only in FL I guess. Later RJD
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Old 10-30-2015, 12:16 PM   #13
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(Quote:That's a good one never heard of that being done just to sit in a truck. Only in FL I guess. Later RJD)

Aceinspp, I've got one for you. When I discovered the leak in my toilet water hose under the trailer, I tried to get it fixed on warranty at an RV dealer in Wisconsin Rapids, WI, the same one from whom we had purchased our 5th wheel. Even though the hose was a warranty item, they refused to repair it unless I paid $150 up front "for anything that might come up later." She said "we don't make our money doing repairs; we make it selling RVs." We didn't buy our A213HW there because they don't sell them. I assumed that Forest River's new RV warranty would be good at any Forest River dealer. Obviously, I will never purchase another RV from that dealer. I ended up doing the repair myself as it wasn't all that hard.

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We actually bought our QHBW212 in Tucker Georgia at Pecos Campers because they were cheaper by $2800 and when we got there from Clermont Florida to take possession it had a little dent on the upper part of the door they said they would cover it under warranty and discounted another $500 off the $2800. And they would send the upper part of the door when it came in down to The dealer here in Florida to have it repaired. Three weeks later I got a call from the dealer from Leesburg said no charge bring it in. Now that was service, and I will buy from Pecos Campers that is now Campers Inn for our next one I even got a call from Forest River asking about the repair if I was happy with it.
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After reading all the responses I'm questioning on pulling my newly acquired a122s (dry weight less than 1900 lbs) with my 2013 Ford Escape with the 2.0 turbo boost. Tow rating 3500lbs. I appreciate any opinions. Is sway bars necessary with this unit?
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I tow with a 2005 Chrysler Town n Country 3.5 L with tow package, getting 17.1 mpg. Got me through the hills, long grades of W Va and VA past two weeks, no issues.
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Old 11-02-2015, 05:07 PM   #17
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After reading all the responses I'm questioning on pulling my newly acquired a122s (dry weight less than 1900 lbs) with my 2013 Ford Escape with the 2.0 turbo boost. Tow rating 3500lbs. I appreciate any opinions. Is sway bars necessary with this unit?
Unfortunately, dry weight means less than nothing. It's deceiving and will never be achieved in real life.

There should be a yellow sticker somewhere that lists the actual weight as it left the factory (it will be several hundred pounds heavier than the dry weight). You also need the max gross weight - which is the published maximum weight the trailer should be when fully loaded. Your towing weight should be somewhere between the two, depending on much stuff you pack into the camper, and how much weight the dealer added on in extras and options.

From what I have seen from those who have actually weighed their a-frames in camping condition at a truck scale, your real tow weight will be somewhere around 2600 - 3000+ lbs. With that front stowage locker, you can really add weight, although I believe Forest River claims stuff in the front locker should be less than 150lbs.

With a Ford Escape, I would add a combination weight distributing hitch and anti-sway. This, when adjusted, will stop your Escape's rear end from sagging, and prevent sway. I use an Equalizer E2 hitch for both WDH and anti-sway - works very nicely on my Hyundai Entourage minivan.

From everything I have read, the EB engine will give better torque and power than a standard V6. Your gas mileage while towing won't be any better than a V6 (15-19 mpg, depending a lot of factors).

But you won't know until you try. I would also make a very concerted effort to keep your A122s weight as towed below 3000lb. A trip to the truck scale loaded up for camping will be very enlightening and worth the time and a few bucks.

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Thanks for all the information. Your response went well beyond what I expected. Thanks again.
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