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Old 05-04-2016, 04:21 PM   #11
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We just got a 195BH. Yes, it's a square box trailer, but it has a tub/shower, toilet, as much sleeping space as the pop up but more "living" space, more counter space, non of the setup/tear-down work. It's easily towable by your truck, and we got ours new for under $11k incl taxes. We moved up from a pop-up, also.


weights just 3100 dry, 3900 gross.


some pics here:
http://www.forestriverforums.com/for...lbums2616.html



If you don't need the bunks, there is the 185RB that's even smaller/lighter.



Just an idea to consider...


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Old 05-05-2016, 08:16 AM   #12
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Here's another two cents. I can see wanting the toilet. That's one of the reasons we went from an A122S to the A213HW. But IMO showers are more of an inconvenience than anything else. The water gets out on the floor; the steam covers the mirror and walls; there's not much of a flow, and the water fills up your grey water tank quickly, -at least it does if your wife showers like mine. Most all the campgrounds we've been in have had decent showers. Obviously, they range in quality, but in general they're usable. Towing the A-frame has been a delight after years of heavy trailers and one 5th wheel. And I don't have to wait in line to dump tanks anymore!

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Here's another two cents. I can see wanting the toilet. That's one of the reasons we went from an A122S to the A213HW. But IMO showers are more of an inconvenience than anything else. The water gets out on the floor; the steam covers the mirror and walls; there's not much of a flow, and the water fills up your grey water tank quickly, -at least it does if your wife showers like mine. Most all the campgrounds we've been in have had decent showers. Obviously, they range in quality, but in general they're usable. Towing the A-frame has been a delight after years of heavy trailers and one 5th wheel. And I don't have to wait in line to dump tanks anymore!

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Your right about the quality of showers and toilets they're fine for me. I figured if the toilet is there there should be a shower too. And ur right about pulling the aframe it is a dream. I'd like to stand pat, but u never know with the other half.
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Old 05-05-2016, 11:00 AM   #14
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Your right about the quality of showers and toilets they're fine for me. I figured if the toilet is there there should be a shower too. And ur right about pulling the aframe it is a dream. I'd like to stand pat, but u never know with the other half.
We can provide all the advice we want, but we all know that in the end it is NOT going to be mudman's decision -
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I think you can find a lot of good trailers. I have a Tracer 240 AIR (Prime Time sister company of Forest River), weighs 4,000 lbs dry and I don't feel much with a Silverado 9,600 lbs towing capacity. They also have smaller units, check out 206 and I've been in the 215 Air, big back bathroom and shower. Good luck!
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Just remember we all (well almost all) started out in tents/dry camping on the ground then a shell then a truck with camper ect. So just except the fact one day you will get a bigger RV and a bigger TV. That's just the way it works.Njoy.
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Anyone know about the Sonic 170 made by Venture RV? Or how about Lance? Those are new names to us and just starting the research for an upgrade from our 192HW as we also want a toilet.
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Anyone know about the Sonic 170 made by Venture RV? Or how about Lance? Those are new names to us and just starting the research for an upgrade from our 192HW as we also want a toilet.
A lot depends on what that 192HW is pushing.
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We had a Chalet brand Aframe for a handful of years after a tent trailer for even longer and we thought for a long time that we had all we were ever going to want.

After a few longer trips each season and having some horrible weather we found the floor space just not adequate enough. It would have been nice to have some space to stretch our legs, or make it easier to walk around one another. We are almost always dry camping and still wanted something to boondock with but gave us a little more space. originally we wanted the rockwood 1809S but ended up with the 2109S due to the furnace placement and bed layout. This new tt maybe a bit over kill but we love it. It isn't going to travel to some of our previous boondocking locations that our trailboss equipped chalet got into but we can see ourselves in it for the next 10 years.

Those tt's maybe a bit more than what you are looking for but I do not believe you need to get into a 25' trailer either. Best thing is get out and walk around some rv lots and get a feel for what works for you. If they have slides make sure they are extended, play with the features, turn the appliances like the furnace on. If they do not have power hooked up get them to grab a power box.

Weight wise, well our fuel economy will take a hit on longer trips but we know when we get to our destination we are going to be happy!
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friend. but we can see ourselves in it for the next 10 years. Ya right

Those tt's maybe a bit more than what you are looking for but I do not believe you need to get into a 25' trailer either. Best thing is get out and walk around some rv lots and get a feel for what works for you. If they have slides make sure they are extended, play with the features, turn the appliances like the furnace on. If they do not have power hooked up get them to grab a power box.
Go out and njoy camping. Remember ya can't take it with you.
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