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Old 04-02-2013, 08:35 AM   #11
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How much did the air bags cost? Did you measure how much sag you had before and after the air bags?
I have the 2007 Torrent SUV which has the same towing capacity as your SUV and a A128S. I got .25 inch rise in front and an 1 inch sag in the rear, it was measured from the center of the tire well to the ground. The propane tanks where off and the tongue weight was 340 pounds. The trailer was not level hitched, I have to replace my ball mounts to raise it by 2 inches. I'm interested with your stats for comparison.

Does anybody know by how much you could be off +/- inches the level of a hitched trailer? I think if it is too low, it my pop out the ball on sudden hard stop or bump, it happened once on me but it maybe mounted wrong, I now double check the mounts.
Air bags were like $80 and the compressor unit around $220. Before I inflate the airbags I probably get around 2" of sag in the rear. After I inflate them it almost goes back up to stock. Front end lifts around .4 inch and I am sitting right around 330-340 with everything loaded (propane tanks still on the front).

I think the biggest advantage to the air bags is not only levelling it back out, but at the same time the ride is so much better and it will save my suspension in the long run while towing.
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Old 04-02-2013, 05:11 PM   #12
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Thanks rkuffler, just the kind of infor im looking for. camping already up north are ya. I use to like cold weather camping, the older you get the less you like it.
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Old 04-02-2013, 05:15 PM   #13
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Thanks gregory, hadn't thought to check what edmunds had to say. a lot of good info there.
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Old 04-02-2013, 05:19 PM   #14
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Thanks D-mo, the chip is a good idea and I havn't ruled out Nissan yet.
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pm me if you decide on the nissan .. as i have a few value notes also about superchips tune ...

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Old 04-04-2013, 01:30 PM   #16
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I tow our A127TH with the current gen Taco and it does great. I have the Access Cab, V6 TRD 4X4 with 6sp manual. When I got it I didn't want the Double Cab, but now that I'm towing a camper, I kinda wish I had the double just for more people. Otherwise I'm not left wanting a bigger truck. I'm toying with the idea of getting a full size truck, but it has nothing to do with towing the A-frame. BTW I've gotten around 14mpg one the few trips we've been on with the camper.
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IndyRC, thanks for the info. 14 mpg is better than what I get with my F150 pulling a pop-up, about 11 mpg.
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Old 04-04-2013, 05:06 PM   #18
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IndyRC, thanks for the info. 14 mpg is better than what I get with my F150 pulling a pop-up, about 11 mpg.
Wow, that is pretty bad! I see now why you are having an issue with your F150. Is your truck a 4x4?

Reason I'm so taken back is that we get 16-18 mpg towing our A126 with our E150 (4.6L) cargo van and 18-20 not towing.

I guess popups are heavier too...?

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gregory, yes its 4x4, 5.4 triton with a 4:11 posi-track rear end. at best, not towing I get around 15mpg.
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gregory, yes its 4x4, 5.4 triton with a 4:11 posi-track rear end. at best, not towing I get around 15mpg.
Ouch! I figured something like that had to be going on. I understand that it would get in your pocket driving it daily.

Our E150 has 3.73 limited slip differential. It's smaller motor and no 4x4 makes it lighter weight and helps with mpgs. Still, I feel your pain at the pump.

Gary installed a ScanGauge II on the van in 2008, so we see real time and average mpgs. Even though we are conservative drivers, one tends to modify their style of driving with that info in your face.

Best of luck with your tow vehicle decision.

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