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05-14-2012, 08:15 PM
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Window deformation.
Today I noticed that the steel frame running horizontally and separating the upper and lower windows on the left sidewall is dented and the moulding in that area is slightly deformed. It is the result of the pressure exerted to the silver dollar sized area of the frame by the right sidewall when the trailer is folded. The trailer is just over a year old and the deformation is minor, but I am concerned. It seems that there is a lot of weight resting on a fragile window frame. Has anyone else noticed this problem.
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05-14-2012, 08:55 PM
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Location: Louisville, Kentucky
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I've been concerned about that too. I've not seen anything yet but I have only 690 miles of towing so far.
Got any pics?
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2011 FR Rockwood Premiere A126 Hard Side
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Reese 66065 WDH, Curt WDH Shank #17120
Prodigy P2 Brake Controller, Mopar 7-pin Harness
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05-15-2012, 05:14 AM
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Same here. Have not seen any thing yet but I'm watching it.
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05-15-2012, 06:50 AM
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Hamguy probably has as much or more towing behind him and his AFrame than anyone else here. Wonder what he has to say in this.
Not that I want anyone to have such a problem, but I do hope it's an isolated issue.
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2011 FR Rockwood Premiere A126 Hard Side
TV=2011 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 2 Dr
Reese 66065 WDH, Curt WDH Shank #17120
Prodigy P2 Brake Controller, Mopar 7-pin Harness
B&M Transmission Cooler (#70268)
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05-15-2012, 11:52 AM
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I got curious so I went out with my level and camera. The first pic is of the level setting across the window to show any bowing-in. It looks huge in close-up because of the zoom, but it's less than a half inch. I don't know if it was ever less than that. In the second close-up you can see that all that vibration has worn a couple of shiny spots from the three rubber bushings on the other wall and it looks like there's been some squishing of the longitudinal separator bar, but I don't know that it's more than just something to keep an eye on for now.
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2011 Rockwood A128
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60W solar system
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05-15-2012, 12:31 PM
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Thanks Hamguy for the pics. I'll have mine out layer this week and check it out. I'd say you are right about just watching it.
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2011 FR Rockwood Premiere A126 Hard Side
TV=2011 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 2 Dr
Reese 66065 WDH, Curt WDH Shank #17120
Prodigy P2 Brake Controller, Mopar 7-pin Harness
B&M Transmission Cooler (#70268)
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05-15-2012, 01:12 PM
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I'm sure we all have this issue .. mine has not changed since last year.
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05-15-2012, 09:21 PM
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I purchased mine that way and just figured it was normal...my unit has several cosmetic imperfections...it's how I know it's mine  .
LM
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05-16-2012, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by loganmartin
I purchased mine that way and just figured it was normal...my unit has several cosmetic imperfections...it's how I know it's mine .
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Or as we used to say back when I was selling computers, "that's not a bug, it's a feature!"  I like your attitude, LM!
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Lee, WU0V, and Courtenay, N0ZDT
2011 Rockwood A128
2000 Silverado 1500 pickup
60W solar system
2000W inverter generator
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05-17-2012, 09:41 PM
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Got mine out of the garage for the weekend trip. Mine has similar deformation mostly to the rubber seal. The aluminum frame is not deformed.
Looks ok to me...
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2011 FR Rockwood Premiere A126 Hard Side
TV=2011 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 2 Dr
Reese 66065 WDH, Curt WDH Shank #17120
Prodigy P2 Brake Controller, Mopar 7-pin Harness
B&M Transmission Cooler (#70268)
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05-18-2012, 08:05 AM
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Location: Jacksonville, Fl
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Well I'm not going to lose sleep over it...unless the window falls out.
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05-18-2012, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by toleworks
Well I'm not going to lose sleep over it...unless the window falls out.
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On the bright side, if the window falls out that's one less step in exiting during a fire emergency.
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2011 FR Rockwood Premiere A126 Hard Side
TV=2011 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 2 Dr
Reese 66065 WDH, Curt WDH Shank #17120
Prodigy P2 Brake Controller, Mopar 7-pin Harness
B&M Transmission Cooler (#70268)
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05-18-2012, 08:50 AM
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Is this common on all A-frame campers?
This seems to be almost universal. I checked my unit yesterday. I had the same compression. (No real damage; looked exactly like THG's photos.)
I wonder if any Aliner or Chalet owners have ever noticed this or something similar on any of their units? Similar design, etc. If so, did they ever have any long term problems. 
Note: I plan on owning and using my Rockford a long, long time. As the scouts say, I want to "be prepared".
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05-18-2012, 09:32 AM
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The gasket deformation hasn't caused any leaks; it rained pretty hard the other night and not a drop inside. Happiness reigns.
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Lee, WU0V, and Courtenay, N0ZDT
2011 Rockwood A128
2000 Silverado 1500 pickup
60W solar system
2000W inverter generator
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05-18-2012, 09:51 AM
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Whew! 
Deb
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Everybody needs beauty as well as bread, places to play in and pray in, where Nature may heal and cheer and give strength to body and soul alike._ John Muir
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05-28-2012, 09:49 AM
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Join Date: May 2012
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Deformation
I am the proud owner of a new 2012 Aliner Ranger.
That being said, I like to take care of it like a new born baby 
Is there something you can put in between so it doesn't cause this problem?
Perhaps a thin piece of foam?
Cheers
Craig
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05-28-2012, 10:09 AM
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Mostly Harmless
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Location: Central Iowa
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Welcome Alinerhog!
I'd thought of some kind of support to put under the sinkside wall before laying it down but haven't actually done anything yet. I was wondering if some kind of sturdy foam block, foam like is used in coolers maybe, would do the job. It would have to be trimmed to fit just right so that it doesn't end up lifting the wall slightly. There's not a lot of clearance under there when it's closed up so anything that pushes the walls up would have the walls and roof rubbing against each other. At least that's true on the Rockwood and Flagstaff brands. I've never had the chance to peek at an Aliner as it's folding down but it would have to be similar.
We have a trip to Alaska coming up this summer so I'll have a chance to see what 9,000 miles of various road surfaces does to the unit. They're pretty sturdy so I don't expect much of a problem.
Meanwhile, next time I unpack something surrounded by foam blocks I'll save them for repurposing.
Post some photos of your new Ranger, Craig. We love adoring each others' toys!
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Lee, WU0V, and Courtenay, N0ZDT
2011 Rockwood A128
2000 Silverado 1500 pickup
60W solar system
2000W inverter generator
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