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Old 12-29-2013, 09:53 AM   #1
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Pulling a 3650 w a F350 SRW

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I've been looking for some time at many different 5th wheels, and really like the Trilogy 3650RE, and 3650 RL, and am wondering if anyone has 1 that they pull without a dually, and there experience. I know if it's loaded you're over the towing capacity from Ford, and am hesitant to do it. I don't want to go to a dually cause I drive the truck besides towing. Any feedback would be appreciated.
Also I've been looking at the Cardinal 3850RL cause of the lighter weight, but I'm just not as impressed with the fit and finish. Does anyone have any experience with this unit.

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Old 12-29-2013, 10:16 PM   #2
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I have a Trilogy 3650 RE and tow it with a 2011 Silverado 2500, 6.6 Duramax Diesel. I have had my Trilogy since October and towed it about 1500 miles on three trips with no issues. This included a trip to Ashville, NC Mountains. I was towing a Columbus 320 RS, which was about 4,000 pounds less. I bumped my brake controller from a 6 to 7 and made no other modifications. I have the exhaust brake. The Trilogy is easier to stop, I suspect due to better brakes and heavier duty axles. No problems with stability. I have no plans on upgrading to a 1 ton.
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I'll be the dissenting voice - I have a dually for towing and we regularly drive it for every day life. Put almost 18k miles on it its first year and only 5k were towing miles. I don't drive it every day, but often enough. I don't mind my girl's big butt. I like a chick with big hips!
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Old 12-29-2013, 10:50 PM   #4
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Simply check the GVWR, GCWR, payload rating and the 5th wheel towing capacity of the truck.
If the numbers work go for it!

"I don't mind my girl's big butt. I like a chick with big hips!"
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! Well said my friend, well said!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 12-30-2013, 06:03 AM   #5
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I did leave off one modification, due to the tongue weight of the Trilogy ( approximately 2750 and 2950), I added air bags. This raised the capacity of my ĺ ton from 2500 to 5000 pounds. Not sure about your Ford…my truck is rated for up to a 17,600 pound fifth wheel. Dry, the Trilogy 3650’s come in just under 15,000 pounds.
If you are ordering a new Trilogy, I would suggest that a very important “option for safety” on the 3650’s would be the upgraded 17.5 wheels and Goodyear G114, “H” rated tires. They have a capacity of 4,850 pounds each and are essentially commercial, truck tires. From the factory, this was only a $900 option and will last a lot longer than the standard 16 inch ST tires, name brand or not.
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a 2011 2500HD silverado has a rear axle rating of 6200lbs your truck is way over,and bags do not give you more capacity. He wants, I assume to be legal and safe. To the OP get a 1 ton if this is the coach you desire, it is clearly in that range with a 2800 dry pin weight by the time you are camping ready including fuel that # will be closer to 37-4000lbs
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You sir are incorrect.
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Old 12-30-2013, 08:24 AM   #8
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Air bags do NOT increase the tow capacity of any rig.
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You sir are incorrect.
I am known to be, but I would like to see your scale #`s because I have the same truck and I am sitting at the max axle weight and I started with 1600 pin not 2700
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I would agree with the air bags not changing the capacity of the truck. It is based on axle size, brakes, and frame. My 2007 F-250 was overloaded with my Cedar Creek and when I had the Mor/ryde IS added, they told me I was looking for trouble. Get in an accident and they find out you are over the limits of the trucks design and you become liable pretty quick.

Not worth the risk. Get the dually if it meets your needs. At the very least see what a 350 or 3500 can do without the dually.

I don't like the wide hips but it keeps me safe!

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