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Old 09-18-2014, 09:20 AM   #1
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With the toilet in the Trilogy being a mercerator type which grinds stuff then pumps it to the black tank. Is it necessary to utilize the chemicals all the time? The water sitting in the bowl prevents any odors along with the toilet not sitting over the tank, also chemical breakdown isn't required because it's already ground into small pieces. Just wondering what other owners are doing. Am I missing something? Thanks
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Depends on the chemical's you use. If it's just for odor control, then I can see the point. But some people use ones that also include a built in lubricant or coating for the tanks, etc... Personal preference really.
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Depends on the chemical's you use. If it's just for odor control, then I can see the point. But some people use ones that also include a built in lubricant or coating for the tanks, etc... Personal preference really.
What company makes a chemical with built in lub and coating? what is the cost and where do you but it?.....thanks
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What company makes a chemical with built in lub and coating? what is the cost and where do you but it?.....thanks
1) Chemical Dispensing Systems for RV & Marine | Blue Streak LLC

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With the toilet in the Trilogy being a mercerator type which grinds stuff then pumps it to the black tank. Is it necessary to utilize the chemicals all the time? The water sitting in the bowl prevents any odors along with the toilet not sitting over the tank, also chemical breakdown isn't required because it's already ground into small pieces. Just wondering what other owners are doing. Am I missing something? Thanks
Very good question. I assume all Trilogy fifth wheels have the Tecma toilets. Here is the link to their site. http://www.thetford.com/HOME/PRODUCTS/PermanentToilets/TecmaSilenceMarine/tabid/544/Default.aspx
Another question might be, if everything is “ground up”, do we still need the special RV/Marine toilet paper?
I took a quick look at the manual but did not see the chemical issue addressed. However they do have a customer support line.
Pretty impressive unit, very expensive $1,000 to $1600. They are not in many fifth wheels; in fact I have only seen one on a 2015 DRV Mobile Suite.
If you call, please post what you discover.
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Very good question. I assume all Trilogy fifth wheels have the Tecma toilets. Here is the link to their site. http://www.thetford.com/HOME/PRODUCTS/PermanentToilets/TecmaSilenceMarine/tabid/544/Default.aspx
Another question might be, if everything is “ground up”, do we still need the special RV/Marine toilet paper?
I took a quick look at the manual but did not see the chemical issue addressed. However they do have a customer support line.
Pretty impressive unit, very expensive $1,000 to $1600. They are not in many fifth wheels; in fact I have only seen one on a 2015 DRV Mobile Suite.
If you call, please post what you discover.
Think about macerator grinds material including TP to small sizes. Breaking down biologically is down to molecular size- probably a ratio of 1000 to 1. Use the chemicals stop the build up and odors.
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Simple Green, Super Clean, Pinesol, dish soap, etc are all adequate to lube the seals, etc. They are all extremely slippery when applied, even diluted, to seals/slide valves.
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Tecma's not on all Trilogy's

In looking at RV trader it appears that most 2014’s and all 2015 Trilogy’s do not have Tecma’s. They may have the Tecma Style II's (foot pedal not wall electric) which is not the same system as the Tecma Silence Plus. Probably discontued sometime in 2014 because of cost...
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In looking at RV trader it appears that most 2014’s and all 2015 Trilogy’s do not have Tecma’s. Probably discontued sometime in 2014 because of cost...
My 2014 has the Tecma. I believe if it's not a touring model they will have one, not sure on the 15 model year. Also I will contact customer service as you suggested and will post my findings.
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Sensors

In the Tecma RV Owner's Manual (attached) from their website, I found the following that I was not aware of and a little surprised, if accurate:

Holding Tank Level Sensors
This Tecma toilet system has Tank Level Sensors mounted on the outside of the black water tank.

Alson has many warning lights on hand control and lockout when full.


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