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Old 01-16-2015, 01:23 PM   #11
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But lock the doors, against code specified by the NFPA? Pishaw, I'll sit back having a cold one as it burns with my insurance agent on the line telling them where to send the check. They'll never know I locked the tanks against code.

Did you miss the part about leaving it unlocked when the tanks are on while camping and only locking it when valves are closed and camper not in use?

I would be on the phone with my insurance agent tho, telling them where to send the adjustor to inspect the burned out carcas that used to be my camper. Would not need to tell them where to send the check, they have my address on file.
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Old 01-16-2015, 01:28 PM   #12
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Did you miss the part about leaving it unlocked when the tanks are on while camping and only locking it when valves are closed and camper not in use?
Call your insurance agent and tell them that, see what he says.

Look, whitewash it all you wish. The doors don't have locks for a reason, there are other methods to secure the tanks that don't violate NFPA guidelines.

I provided the document. The end, I'm not going to feed you any longer.
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SKnight this will be my last post on the issue because it is obvious that you get very upset if someone does not agree with you.

It is important to point out that what you sited as law is not LAW at all. It is standards and code. I understand that this is what industry uses to protect consumers but you said it is against the LAW AND THAT SIMPLY IS NOT TRUE!

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Old 01-16-2015, 03:32 PM   #14
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I believe in every state locking the propane tank is a violation and carries a fine.....though the chances of them catching you are slim....still I don't see the use in that you can do almost everything you need too tank wise on a MH from underneath if even your trying to protect it from theft....though I suppose if you have the canisters that perhaps is worth while though still illegal.

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Incidentally though I was not shown the standard where I live.....I was told this by a fire department captain who came out to inspect my coach because I did have a propane leak....though I am sure locking it is punishable if they wanted to pursue it just like that little tag on your mattress that says "do not remove" secondly if it was found to be locked and there is damage to life or property of your neighbor it's not that it would only take a second to chop it open that matters but how much the law suit is going to cost you because of the violation.

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SKnight: in post #2631 you quoted:

"(e) Appliances installed within vehicles shall comply with the following:
1. If in the cargo space, they shall be readily accessible
whether the vehicle is loaded or empty."


When I searched for it in your PDF, it was on page 45, not 48, under section 3.8.4. You seem to have conveniently missed the first part of section 3.8.4 on page 44:

"3-8.4.1 The term appliances as used in this subsection shall include any commercial or industrial gas-consuming device except engines."

I don't think gas bottles consume gas, they store gas.

Also, there doesn't seem to be anything that says "readily accessible" means it can't be locked.

So I'm not convinced yet.

And having seen a camper go up in flames, I'm pretty confident that no fire department will ever get to a campground before it's a smoldering heap.


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The NFPA sets rules that are adopted by the states and federal government as one of the so-called "consensus standards." NFPA 1192: Standard on Recreational Vehicles, is the standard appropriate to this discussion. The standard reads:
5.1.6.2 Securing LP-Gas Cylinder Housings.
5.1.6.2.1 Doors, hoods, domes, housings (or portions of
housings), and enclosures required to be removed or opened for
replacement of cylinders shall incorporate means for clamping
them in place to prevent them from working loose during transit.
5.1.6.2.2 Hoods or housings covering valves shall not be equipped
with locks or require special tools to open.
5.1.6.3 Valve Access Doors and Panels. Doors or panels providing access to valves shall not be equipped with locks or require tools to open.
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The NFPA sets rules that are adopted by the states and federal government as one of the so-called "consensus standards." NFPA 1192: Standard on Recreational Vehicles, is the standard appropriate to this discussion. The standard reads:
5.1.6.2 Securing LP-Gas Cylinder Housings.
5.1.6.2.1 Doors, hoods, domes, housings (or portions of
housings), and enclosures required to be removed or opened for
replacement of cylinders shall incorporate means for clamping
them in place to prevent them from working loose during transit.
5.1.6.2.2 Hoods or housings covering valves shall not be equipped
with locks or require special tools to open.
5.1.6.3 Valve Access Doors and Panels. Doors or panels providing access to valves shall not be equipped with locks or require tools to open.
x2 Fire Marshalls can and do enforce NFPA standards and can impose fines, also some NFPA standards have also been adopted by OSHA. (Not the ones inquiring about).

As has been mentioned there is a reason the propane access door do not have locks. I'm sure if the was an injury & a locked propane door was involved I sure a lawsuit would be forthcoming.
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SKnight this will be my last post on the issue because it is obvious that you get very upset if someone does not agree with you.

It is important to point out that what you sited as law is not LAW at all. It is standards and code. I understand that this is what industry uses to protect consumers but you said it is against the LAW AND THAT SIMPLY IS NOT TRUE!

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Alot of misinformation in this entire thread............

Not trying for an argument but..........

NFPA, ANSI, and other consensus standards while it is true in themselves are not always law (Many are Law). But enforcement agencies such as Fire Marshals and OSHA can site ANY of them when the need requires it. So in effect yes they are law. OSHA of course only against employers.


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I just duct tape the doors. No worries! LOL
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