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11-17-2018, 09:33 AM
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Dicor edpm problems 2013-14 units. Maybe others.
Get up on your roof and look for bubbles. I’m talking about blisters like 50 to 100 of them in certain sections. This is an admitted failure by Dicor. You only have six years from the manufacture date to get what they consider fair and equitable compensation. As of right now they are offering me $1000 cash and continue my warranty for another six years however it is prorated and you only get material to replace the roof no money towards labor. So I have nine more months to take the thousand dollars or the other program they have which is all the materials to replace the roof and $2700 to put towards the labor to replace The roof. You are allowed to say you will replace the roof your self and take the $2700 and all the supplies. If you wait till you’re RV is six years and one day from manufacture date you will only get the materials to replace the roof and no money. I just wanted everyone to know this. Also they say the blisters are only ascetic. But it will definitely affect trade-in or resell value. When you look at the blisters if they are split open you still will not see the black part of the EDpm. I called around and it’s very expensive to replace the roof most places charge at least $5000 labor, so I will probably take the roof materials and the $2700 and just hope for the best.
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11-17-2018, 09:42 AM
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Dicor edpm problems 2013-14 units. Maybe others.
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11-17-2018, 10:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by quick83
Get up on your roof and look for bubbles. I’m talking about blisters like 50 to 100 of them in certain sections. This is an admitted failure by Dicor. You only have six years from the manufacture date to get what they consider fair and equitable compensation. As of right now they are offering me $1000 cash and continue my warranty for another six years however it is prorated and you only get material to replace the roof no money towards labor. So I have nine more months to take the thousand dollars or the other program they have which is all the materials to replace the roof and $2700 to put towards the labor to replace The roof. You are allowed to say you will replace the roof your self and take the $2700 and all the supplies. If you wait till you’re RV is six years and one day from manufacture date you will only get the materials to replace the roof and no money. I just wanted everyone to know this. Also they say the blisters are only ascetic. But it will definitely affect trade-in or resell value. When you look at the blisters if they are split open you still will not see the black part of the EDpm. I called around and it’s very expensive to replace the roof most places charge at least $5000 labor, so I will probably take the roof materials and the $2700 and just hope for the best.
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Good to know . my unit has a manufacture date of August 2014 . even though it's listed as a 2015 unit and there are a few bubbles in the roof . has been that way since day one and was told when i did my walk through that was normal . do you have any contact info ?
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11-17-2018, 10:10 AM
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Remember these are blisters not air bubbles.
If you look close you will see they are NOT all the way through the tan part. POC is don metzger 800-837-2059.
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11-17-2018, 10:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by quick83
Remember these are blisters not air bubbles. Attachment 191628
If you look close you will see they are NOT all the way through the tan part. POC is don metzger 800-837-2059.
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I've got nothing like that thankfully , but thanks for the contact info anyways
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11-17-2018, 10:27 AM
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Thank You!
It’s posts like this that make this site so great!
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11-17-2018, 01:34 PM
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Are you sure the roof isnt TPO?
Pics look like TPO to me.
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11-17-2018, 05:26 PM
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look's like a seperation of layers to me. The written warranties for roofs have said that the material is 10 years but labor was NOT covered. If they are offering some money and materials I think I would take it Keep us posted.
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11-17-2018, 08:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bikendan
Are you sure the roof isnt TPO?
Pics look like TPO to me.
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It looks like EPDM to me. TPO is the same color though out. EPDM is black underneath. I'm pretty sure I see black where they have broken open.
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11-18-2018, 11:14 AM
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Is EPDM the fiberglass and the TPO rubber. Or ??
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11-18-2018, 11:39 AM
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None of us actually have a "rubber" roof. The flexible membrane also has nothing to do with any fiberglass, metal or wood component of the roof.
The flexible, weatherproof membrane that tops our roof construction is typically one of two types; either made primarily of a substance (Thermoplastic Polyolefin) abbreviated as TPO , or (ethylene propylene diene monomer) as EPDM. Both products are colloquially referred to as a type of synthetic "rubber roof", and each has it's specific care and chemical compatibilities and incompatibilities so cleaning agents, sealants, etc need to be checked to insure applicability to the product on your unit.
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12-13-2018, 11:47 AM
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Dicor edpm problems 2013-14 units. Maybe others.
Again. All look at roof now so u not loose 2750$ and roof material and install kit. I got my $ and kit. I called the edpm MANUFACTURER who is Carlisle NOT dicor! Dicor just the distributor to forest river! They also told me will absolutely not affect the performance of the edpm. Again it’s BLISTERS not air bubbles. See my pic.
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12-21-2018, 11:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormrider151
It looks like EPDM to me. TPO is the same color though out. EPDM is black underneath. I'm pretty sure I see black where they have broken open.
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Not true. White EPDM is white top and bottom. Tpo is white on top and black on bottom.
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12-21-2018, 11:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 360true
Is EPDM the fiberglass and the TPO rubber. Or ??
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EPDM is rubber like a bike tire. Tpo is a temporary plastic overlay. Bahabaha! Cheap.
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12-21-2018, 11:32 PM
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Novice Travel Trailer Guy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by quick83
Remember these are blisters not air bubbles. Attachment 191628
If you look close you will see they are NOT all the way through the tan part. POC is don metzger 800-837-2059.
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Chemical damage. Grease and fats are also not compatible with EPDM. That is the one thing that tpo offers, its more chemically resistant.
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12-21-2018, 11:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by benchmarks
Not true. White EPDM is white top and bottom. Tpo is white on top and black on bottom.
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Let me correct myself. If the EPDM is coming white on top and black on the bottom then it is not true EPDM. Hybrid. Carbon black mixed with titanium dioxide.
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