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Old 02-28-2010, 12:08 PM   #1
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I am looking for advice concerning some small bubble like areas that have developed below my fridge vent on the outside of my fiberglass sided trailer. They are about a thumb's width and are various lengths. There is a couple different spots. I do not recall seeing these "bubbles" when I purchased the trailer. I still have factory warranty on the exterior. I am wondering if anyone else has had these issues and whether the "bubbles" will likely get worse. I have tried to take pictures without much success. The trailer is a 2009 surveyor.

To me, it looks like water has got in the luan on the outside of the trailer. I would have to assume that this happened because the opening around the fridge vent was not sealed properly.

Any ideas? I am thinking that it will have to return to the factory to have the whole side replaced.
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Old 02-28-2010, 04:00 PM   #2
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I am looking for advice concerning some small bubble like areas that have developed below my fridge vent on the outside of my fiberglass sided trailer. They are about a thumb's width and are various lengths. There is a couple different spots. I do not recall seeing these "bubbles" when I purchased the trailer. I still have factory warranty on the exterior. I am wondering if anyone else has had these issues and whether the "bubbles" will likely get worse. I have tried to take pictures without much success. The trailer is a 2009 surveyor.

To me, it looks like water has got in the luan on the outside of the trailer. I would have to assume that this happened because the opening around the fridge vent was not sealed properly.

Any ideas? I am thinking that it will have to return to the factory to have the whole side replaced.
Sounds to me that your suspicions are 100% correct. Others have posted here where similar bubbles showed up inside and found that water had gotten into the interior of the wall. It sounds like the same has happened on your unit but the water has gotten between the outter layer and the one under it. You should contact your dealer or FR so you don't lose too much camping time while it's gettin fixed.
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Old 02-28-2010, 07:34 PM   #3
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I had bubbles on the exterior of my camper but it was delamanation, due to poor bonding of the exterior finish and the sub wall. My bubbles continued to grow and got bigger. The pic are posted somewhere on the Forum.
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:49 PM   #4
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Thanks for the replies guy's... I wished I could say that we were all wrong...

My trailer is still in storage, guess I better bug the guy to get it out of the barn and back to the dealer. I don't want to lose all my camping season. Camping season doesn't usually start until May in Ontario... It is supposed to be +8 celcius this weekend... I could camp in that!
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That's like 48 F, hell ya, bring on the camping
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Old 03-05-2010, 11:18 PM   #6
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shineysideup,

We got up to 69 degrees today! Time to clean the tt and I found this spot above my slide out. It's about 3"W x 5"L and I can push it in with my finger. There's no sign of any problem on the inside of the tt.

Looks like delamination to me. Called the dealership and I'm taking it to them a week from Monday. They said it will probably have to go back to the factory.

My problem is the warranty was up the 23rd of last month!
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Old 03-06-2010, 08:25 AM   #7
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shineysideup,

We got up to 69 degrees today! Time to clean the tt and I found this spot above my slide out. It's about 3"W x 5"L and I can push it in with my finger. There's no sign of any problem on the inside of the tt.

Looks like delamination to me. Called the dealership and I'm taking it to them a week from Monday. They said it will probably have to go back to the factory.

My problem is the warranty was up the 23rd of last month!
I think you are right, I had the samething but it was on the main body of the camper. I had just pick it up from the dealer and it was in my driveway for 8 days and had not had it out yet. I got a another new camper out of it.
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I think you are right, I had the samething but it was on the main body of the camper. I had just pick it up from the dealer and it was in my driveway for 8 days and had not had it out yet. I got a another new camper out of it.
After talking to my wife about this spot, she believes it's always been there. I think I may have noticed it in the past as well it just never seemed that bad. Maybe it's worse now or the light hit it just right. It's kind of wavey in that area, but this is the only spot that is "soft". It feels solid underneath, just the outside skin flexes in that area.

I did wash the top yesterday with roof conditioner and there is no visable leaks inside the tt. I had a leak last winter in the right front corner that the dealer took care of. Noticed a small, dry bubble on the inside in this area yesterday. Hope this tt doesn't turn out to be a headache with leaks.

I looked at the papers. We signed on 2/20/09 and picked the tt up a few days later. I'm going to research some threads. It seems like I read where Forest River fixed delamination problems after the first year warranty ended. Maybe wishful thinking.

I had the tt in last month before the warranty was up. One thing they were suppose to do was re-caulk all areas on the roof because I complained of leaks. They only did about three places. Maybe that will save me if this is delamination and it's caused by a leak. Maybe more wishful thinking.
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After talking to my wife about this spot, she believes it's always been there. I think I may have noticed it in the past as well it just never seemed that bad. Maybe it's worse now or the light hit it just right. It's kind of wavey in that area, but this is the only spot that is "soft". It feels solid underneath, just the outside skin flexes in that area.

I did wash the top yesterday with roof conditioner and there is no visable leaks inside the tt. I had a leak last winter in the right front corner that the dealer took care of. Noticed a small, dry bubble on the inside in this area yesterday. Hope this tt doesn't turn out to be a headache with leaks.

I looked at the papers. We signed on 2/20/09 and picked the tt up a few days later. I'm going to research some threads. It seems like I read where Forest River fixed delamination problems after the first year warrant ended. Maybe wishful thinking.

I had the tt in last month before the warranty was up. One thing they were suppose to do was re-caulk all areas on the roof because I complained of leaks. They only did about three places. Maybe that will save me if this is delamination and it's caused by a leak. Maybe more wishful thinking.
I was told by the people I bought mine from that this kind af delam is found on rig that are at least 10 years old, But with cut backs on manufacturing the quality control is some what eliminated. I worked in the printed circuit board industry for 15 years and I am happy to say I worked for Johnny Unitis # 19 for the Baltimore Colts. The copper clade that we used is manufactured in the same manner as the skin on campers, but the clade is more ridged then the material used on campers. Both the sub wall and the back of the finished wall or exterior are glued and then vaccumed pressed at a high temp. I don't know what that temp is but if they have a temp drop in the middle of this proceedure or if they have a bad batch of glue this can cause problems with delam. In order for a good bond all of the mositure has to be removed between both compoenets. While in the PC Industry we had $50,000 worth of material sent to us for pc manufacturing and had to ship it all back because it was separating, come to found out they had a bad press, due to temp control it lost it's heat.
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Thanks rockwood06.

Since I haven't noticed any moisture inside, it's probably due to poor manufacturing as you mentioned in your post.

I'll keep everything updated on here in case someone else runs into a similar problem.
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