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Old 03-25-2015, 08:14 AM   #1
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Awning keeps popping the 15 amp

Last trip of 2014 awning popped the fuse didn't come out
We talked about it at length on another thread
Dealer replaced switch
First trip of 2015 popped fuse didn't come out
Dealer replaced fuse (hell I coulda done that) and says it's fine
Oh it will work great in my driveway till I get to the beach and can we pretty much agree Ill have a hat trick
3rd failure
It's gotta be a short or a bad motor
Anyone with similar problem
How can I get the dealer to dig into this problem deeper as a warranty item
I know I could pay someone to "make it work" but this is a 2014 2860ds and I've only had it out on 6 trips
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Old 03-25-2015, 08:21 AM   #2
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Sounds like the torsion spring needs tightening/replaced OR the motor is getting ready to shoot craps.

Torsion spring should have from 8 to 12 turns on it depending on the length of the awning. Page 7 of the following.
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Maybe your unit falls within this recall?

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Old 03-25-2015, 08:26 AM   #4
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2860DS Awning problem revisited

Posted on tech but decided to post here to get other input
Awning Popped fuse (2) on last trip of 2014 didn't come out
Dealer replaced switch
First trip of '15 awning popped fuse didn't come out
Dealer has it now replaced fuse says it's good to go
It's gotta be a short or a bad motor
How can I get them to understand that this system needs to be looked at deeper cause I'll bet the farm it's gonna pop again
Any thoughts or experience with a bad awning on a new class C?
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How can I get the dealer to dig into this problem deeper as a warranty item

Howdy trdutch, hate to hear about your problem. We are a forum of do-it-yourselfers, but I'm not sure that anyone here will be able to offer correct advice on how to "get" a dealer to dig deeper. If you are not satisfied with their lack of depth on it, you might could contact Forest River.

They might could assist you in offering advice on other authorized repair facilities. However the drawback to that is, these other places may not put you at the top of the food chain since you didn't originally purchase from them.......then you would be back to contacting Forest River yet again.

Back to the DIY aspect, have you noticed the awning arms kinking or the motor sounding like it is getting into a bind while the awning is going in or out? I had a buddy whose electric awning was doing this, and it would pop the fuse. We were able to straighten his out, and he has been good to go since.
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No
Not having a binding problem
When it works (after dealer had it) it operates smooth and correct
But obviously after it sits, pop
Will mention the the recall and tension
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If the awning is binding as wmtire mentioned, try opening the awning completely and measuring from ea. end of the tube to the edge of the material. The material should be centered within about 1/8". Once it is centered, run it in and out a couple of times, make sure it is centered, run it out completely and pop rivet it on both ends thru the side hem into the tube.
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Would be interesting to know if the fuse was blown before hitting the switch to deploy. This would indicate a short to ground that may be happening due to a rub while driving. The switch just reverses the polarity of the motor for in and out. My unit had the wires routed against a sharp metal flange that rubbed through the insulation and would make contact while driving and blew the fuse. Tough to run down but did. Anyway, you may have something similar. A long shot but could have happened during the install.
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Old 03-25-2015, 09:43 AM   #9
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Thanks bubbles
If I end up taking the unit as is
I have a 20 ish mile ride back to storage and I will check the fuse before I attempt to deploy
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I'm going to agree with bubbles to find yourself a short in the wiring. I shared my similar experience when our 232IS was new. Funny thing was, I knew exactly what it was and about where to find it (where it entered - poorly done through an aluminum framing member).

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The awning switch switches the ground from one wire to the other depending on which direction your going "in or out"
I bet one way works fine but blows fuse the other way?
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The awning switch switches the ground from one wire to the other depending on which direction your going "in or out"
I bet one way works fine but blows fuse the other way?
Actually, the switch switches both the 12 volt and ground motor input (simple dc reversible motor). But you could be right switch could be connected wrong.
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Actually, the switch switches both the 12 volt and ground motor input (simple dc reversible motor). But you could be right switch could be connected wrong.
Well yes that's what I meant!
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Totally agree trdutch, when a fuse blows, it's virtually guarenteed the "fuse" was not the problem. Dealer is prolonging the issue, for whatever reason. Demanding to replace the motor would be the easiest and most practical (as opposed to the wiring to/from the awning motor) and see if the problem still exists. Process of elimination.

I realize the dealers are under pressure from "corporate" to not replace parts willy nilly when under warranty. The old part has to be sent back many times also. I experienced that with several parts on my 2860DS that went bad.
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Old 03-27-2015, 05:57 AM   #15
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Dealer says they cannot just rewire the system until it pops the breaker every time the switch is hit,and right now (at the dealership) it's working
Raining today and we will see if that has any impact
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Ya but remember
The fuse tripped repeatedly from factory setup and the switch was replaced so that would mean it was wired wrong at the factory and the the dealer tech replaced the new switch "the way the old one came off"
We don't have a problem of it failing in transit or failing in the out position
As was suggested earlier it's either getting wet and that's when the short shows it ugly head or while I'm driving and the rub may be occurring
We are still trouble shooting but it's apparently working for the dealer now
Rain most of today and that should give us our "moisture test"
I'm not happy about taking it back "with a handful of fuses", as was suggested by the dealer
I operate large equipment and a circuit breaker of a fuse tells us something is WRONG
We don't use them to replace switches
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So does it go out ok but blows fuses on the way in or the other way around?
Or do you have troubles both ways?
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Ask them to drive it around; then run the awning in and out.

If there is a wire cut that only shorts during vibration, maybe it will appear after a road test.
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Water won't cause a short on the line at 12 VDC. Eventually it will corrode. If the awning blows the fuse when it is fully deployed see if the awning roll is mechanically jammed or stuck, might be causing stall current to climb and blowing the fuse.
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OK, this really belongs in tech.
Merging these two threads.
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