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Old 10-06-2012, 03:58 PM   #1
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Sagging Awning and Bent Tube

Hi, We're new owners of a Vcross 32. It has a 20' awning that is electric. Very nice, but it will not retract fully due to sagging under its own weight. The Tube appears to be in need of support or something. Sags retracted or when deployed. Never over stressed from rain, and have only used it about 6 times.
On discussion with the service center, they say that Forrest River will not authorize replacement of the tube. FR will authorize "adjusting" the arms, which in my view is a temporary fix. Has anyone else run into this issue, or lack of support from FR?
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No, but there is a fix (permanent) for the "sagging tube" problem in long awnings.

Check out RV Awning Repair | MegaX57
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Now why didn't I think of that!
More importantly, why doesn't the factory put reinforcements in these very long awning tubes?
20 feet is a loooooooonnnngg awning!
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Hi, We're new owners of a Vcross 32. It has a 20' awning that is electric. Very nice, but it will not retract fully due to sagging under its own weight. The Tube appears to be in need of support or something. Sags retracted or when deployed. Never over stressed from rain, and have only used it about 6 times.
On discussion with the service center, they say that Forrest River will not authorize replacement of the tube. FR will authorize "adjusting" the arms, which in my view is a temporary fix. Has anyone else run into this issue, or lack of support from FR?
The "sagging" tube is one thing, but the not nesting properly or not "retracting fully" might be something else altogether. If the awning fabric shifts a bit one way or the other over time at the tube end, then the arms will not fully nest when retracted. The solution to this is to re-position the fabric at the tube end of the awning. This can be done when the awning is extended - have someone release the tension by lifting the tube a bit while a second person re-positions the fabric back to it's original position by grasping the fabric and pulling it in the appropriate direction. To accomplish this, the awning needs to be extended to the point that the slot in the tube is in a direct line to the trailer wall. (ie - not wrapped around the tube at all)
Some folks have installed a pop rivet through the fabric at the tube end to prevent the fabric from shifting.

The sagging of wide awning tubes seems to be a very common occurance, and is not a warranty-covered item, as you have discovered. Herk's suggestion is probably the best route to take, but is a fairly complex DIY job.

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Not unrolling the awning "completely" will help avoid "sagging".

Over extended, (the fabric is 90 degrees to the roller) like the image, the roller gets no support from the awning material.

If the awning material crosses over the top of the roller when open, (touches the roller at the top, not the side), when it is open, the awning material will add to the roller's strength.

This will not FIX a bent roller, but will help prevent the condition.
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[QUOTE=herk7769;261299]Not unrolling the awning "completely" will help avoid "sagging".

Over extended, (the fabric is 90 degrees to the roller) like the image, the roller gets no support from the awning material.

If the awning material crosses over the top of the roller when open, (touches the roller at the top, not the side), when it is open, the awning material will add to the roller's strength. QUOTE]

You got me scratching my head on that one!
But you could be right.
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Not unrolling the awning "completely" will help avoid "sagging".

Over extended, (the fabric is 90 degrees to the roller) like the image, the roller gets no support from the awning material.

If the awning material crosses over the top of the roller when open, (touches the roller at the top, not the side), when it is open, the awning material will add to the roller's strength.

This will not FIX a bent roller, but will help prevent the condition.
I agree with what Herk is saying, but on the image shown and on my new 5er, the arms are not straight when the material is over the top of the tube. On the 5er, I can adjust the arms to be straight, but on the one in the image, neither arm was adjustable. The adjustable arms did not go into production until sometime in 09 after numerous complaints of not being able to tilt the awning for rain runoff.
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I agree with what Herk is saying, but on the image shown and on my new 5er, the arms are not straight when the material is over the top of the tube. On the 5er, I can adjust the arms to be straight, but on the one in the image, neither arm was adjustable. The adjustable arms did not go into production until sometime in 09 after numerous complaints of not being able to tilt the awning for rain runoff.
The arms will not be "straight" with the awning material on the top of the tube; at least on mine (which is adjustable but I don't "adjust" them). The technique of leaving a quarter wrap on the roller has been covered before in a previous thread. This is just my opinion and don't want to rehash the logic all over again.

You can always buy the intermediate "rafter."

If you want to try it; fine. If not; happy camping.
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I agree with what Herk is saying, but on the image shown and on my new 5er, the arms are not straight when the material is over the top of the tube. On the 5er, I can adjust the arms to be straight, but on the one in the image, neither arm was adjustable. The adjustable arms did not go into production until sometime in 09 after numerous complaints of not being able to tilt the awning for rain runoff.
I wouldn't adjust and lock the arms in position just to make them look straight. It would be too easy to forget and try rolling up the awning, causing an unknown amount of damage.
I always leave mine loose, even if they don't look straight.
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I wouldn't adjust and lock the arms in position just to make them look straight. It would be too easy to forget and try rolling up the awning, causing an unknown amount of damage.
I always leave mine loose, even if they don't look straight.
I don't think I said I adjusted the arms to be straight. I mearly stated that to get the material to help support the tube as Herk stated the arms would not be straight. I extend the awning completely out, leave the arms loose and deploy the support poles with the side farthest away from the door about 6"-12" lower for runoff and stake it down. Also, it is only a 15' awning and doesn't bow anyway.

If I had a 20' awning, I would invest in the MX57 reinforcement and forget about using the material for support.

In my opinion, not extending the awning to the full extent puts a load on the motor when the wind buffets the material and trys to unroll the awning more. So it is whatever floats your boat. I've never lost an awning or had one damaged since our 1st one in 76, so will continue with the full extension of the material.
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