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Old 07-09-2013, 09:24 PM   #31
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I applaud Rugged's ability to see his camper's slides while traveling.
I can barely see my camper in our truck's dinky mirrors.
It's not really that hard Lou, especially on a slight left turn. we have lots of winding rough roads here and I constantly look in the mirrors just to see if the camper is still there. I've noticed you changed your glasses recently , on your profile picture. Maybe a little stronger pair would work better. Now, that's a joke.
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Old 07-09-2013, 09:30 PM   #32
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It's not really that hard Lou, especially on a slight left turn. we have lots of winding rough roads here and I constantly look in the mirrors just to see if the camper is still there. I've noticed you changed your glasses recently , on your profile picture. Maybe a little stronger pair would work better. Now, that's a joke.
Let me see if I remember my High School Physics....

When turning left, which direction is centrifugal force acting on the left slide?

Is it acting to pull the slide away from the wall or acting to hold it tight?


Now if you could watch the right side slide while turning left; now that would be something...
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Old 07-09-2013, 09:32 PM   #33
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Lou, you are slowly, convincing me that I may have to dig the bars out and start using them. Hopefully I didn't pitch them. If I did, I guess I can make some new ones. LOL
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Lou, you are slowly, convincing me that I may have to dig the bars out and start using them. Hopefully I didn't pitch them. If I did, I guess I can make some new ones. LOL

Yea, OC, Lou is too smart for me. I may just have to cut a couple of broomsticks up and use them.
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When I got my MH the delivery guy didn't know what the sticks were for, neither did I. So after a while I cut them down to a size where they fit inside the cabinets and I use them as dividers to keep things from banging around.
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No ax to grind. Just trying to say what I think is right.

Now lets hit the bar...
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Maybe one of us has a slide out of adjustment. When mine comes in, the very first thing is the bottom lifts up. This tilts the slide so the top is tilted outwards.

As the slide comes in, the slide "topples" into the camper slightly as the center of gravity of the slide passes the 1/2 way point. This releases the weight on the spring loaded pinion gear tracking assemblies.

In this configuration, the top of the slide may contact the wall first but there is very little pressure to compress the top seals. Continued running of the motor pulls the bottom in until the bottom of the slide hits the outer wall.

The top seal in mine now rests on the outer wall but is not tight (though the bottom is).

When I install the slide brace (as in the photo), as I tighten the brace, the top pulls in compressing the top seal (light that was visible in the corners is extinguished) and the slide rotates slightly into the camper re-compressing the pinion gear spring pack.

Note: There is a clutch in the motor driven gear pack that can release (and in fact does so every time you reach full extension and retraction - that clacking noise). If the slide does not have the transit bars in place, a sharp enough shock can unlatch that clutch and allow the slide to move. Once in motion the weight of the slide may very well allow the slide to continue to full extension.

Great explanation, as always.
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Agree, mine is the same and if it starts to move the face board is held in place with staples. So far I guess we've just been lucky. When the slide comes in on ours, the top hits at least 2" before the bottom hits.
Mine work exactly like yours do and as such I see no need for the sticks either.
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No ax to grind. Just trying to say what I think is right.

Now lets hit the bar...
Don't think anyone was implying that, I appreciated the information. TOWTA says our poles are stored in under the bed in the front. Will retrieve them and start using. I will make sure they have some big tags of some kind to alert TOWTA to remove them before attempting to move the slide. It's a shame we can't come up with an electrical interlock disabling the switch until the poles are removed. Thanks again Lou for teaching this old dog a new trick.
I do believe that I will add an alum angle to set the pole against instead of the trim.
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One of the big misconceptions is that the brace somehow restrains the slide.

It does not.

The brace puts pressure on the spring loaded pinion to keep it in contact with the rack at all times. Without the brace, the teeth of the pinion can skip out of the rack under a sharp load (or even break off). The clutch in the motorized gearbox is not sufficient to hold the slide if it starts moving.

Read the Lippert flyer on replacing the spring loaded pinion gear.
That is verified by the fact that one is only supposed to tighten the slide locks enough to keep them in place. And that is because the locks are only meant to keep the slide from rocking back and forth, the drive mechanism keeps the slide in place.
The two are meant to work together, so eliminating one weakens the other.
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