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Old 07-09-2013, 11:44 PM   #41
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Now we just have to get the word out to everyone who was convinced they could throw their slide locks away!
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Lou is a great teacher and has the documentation to support it rather than just offering an opinion. My hat is off to you Lou.
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Okay so how do we know if we are supposed to have them? Maybe the dealer threw mne away. We need a list of what campers have what mechanism and which ones need the sticks. My previous non FR camper was a quad slde and I had 8 of them and was told not to use them. My VCross has none.
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Old 07-10-2013, 06:46 AM   #44
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Okay so how do we know if we are supposed to have them?
A phone call to FR is perhaps the easiest; short of crawling underneath and seeing what kind you have. I believe the hydraulic/electric ones also need the transit bars; but don't quote me.
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Okay so how do we know if we are supposed to have them? Maybe the dealer threw mne away. We need a list of what campers have what mechanism and which ones need the sticks. My previous non FR camper was a quad slde and I had 8 of them and was told not to use them. My VCross has none.
If you push on the top of the slide, and it moves out from the side of the camper, I would say that a slide lock would be a good idea. If it seems solid, then probably not.
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A phone call to FR is perhaps the easiest; short of crawling underneath and seeing what kind you have. I believe the hydraulic/electric ones also need the transit bars; but don't quote me.
Our TH did not come with them, but I just told my DH about this.....he is going to make me some too! All I need to worry about is the slide popping out!
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Old 07-10-2013, 09:11 AM   #47
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One of the big misconceptions is that the brace somehow restrains the slide.

It does not.

The brace puts pressure on the spring loaded pinion to keep it in contact with the rack at all times. Without the brace, the teeth of the pinion can skip out of the rack under a sharp load (or even break off). The clutch in the motorized gearbox is not sufficient to hold the slide if it starts moving.

Read the Lippert flyer on replacing the spring loaded pinion gear.
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If you are refering to the pdf you attached above, that slide mechanism was per the instructions for slide mechanisms built before 11/22/2004. The mechanisms on my slides are in captured tubes if you look closely at the pics in the slide out manual and as near as I can see it would take an act of god to make the new style slip. Could it happen? Of course it could but I would not say it is a doom and gloom scenario but as near as I can see making it happen by hitting a large bump is next to impossible given how the slide rails move inside those tubes. The old style rode on top of the mechanism and there may be a possibility of bounce on the gear train.
FWIW mine are made like the one on page 12 with the drive tube between the 2 rails.
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If you are refering to the pdf you attached above, that slide mechanism was per the instructions for slide mechanisms built before 11/22/2004..
The first pdf file is for the newer campers, and is what my Flagstaff has.
Note that the instructions say, more than once, to install the slide locks, both for travel, AND WHILE IN STORAGE.
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I have a red tag over the slider switch reminding me to double check the bathroom door is closed before retracting. I love carpentry but hated having to repair a bunch of trim work recently.
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The first pdf file is for the newer campers, and is what my Flagstaff has.
Note that the instructions say, more than once, to install the slide locks, both for travel, AND WHILE IN STORAGE.

I was actually refering to this statement

"Read the Lippert flyer on replacing the spring loaded pinion gear."

and that is actually the second pdf and has nothing to do with modern slide mechanisms.

And if you actually read what I said, I was not for or against the locks. I was just setting the record straight. Everyone will do what they feel is the right for them regardless of anyone preaching to them. Yes on the first page I backed what OC stated as that is how my slides work and I would be real interested in seeing someone get them to move without breaking something because for the top to be able to move at all on mine the bottom needs to move out at the very minimum 2" and maybe even more. I will also say that unless you have seen how they actually are moving most people probably cannot visualize it. Also if the clutch or motor were to fail the slide would drop out at the bottom and given the weight, the top would rotate in and down thus releasing any pressure you had put on the bars and they would in all likelyhood fall down on top of the slide thus allowing the slide to start moving out and probably tearing off the inner trim or ripping the seal as the slide moved out so what would I gain. Now if your slide exerts no pressure on the upper seal when it retracts (as in come in straight or has lifted at the start of it's travel vs the end) then there would be no pressure on the upper seal to hold it in any scenario and the locks would work as most seem to think they would.

With all that said, I need to check my bedroom slide and see if it travels the same because if it does not then I will probably use the lock on it, just need to figure out some sort of interlock to prevent damage from being absent minded.
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