Slide clutch adjustment? - Page 2

**Herk7769** · 07-10-2013, 04:30 PM

I am confused. How can a grease not attract dirt?

I would think the whole idea of grease is to stay sticky...

Witch Doctor · 07-10-2013, 05:06 PM

Buying it at amazon is fine, I do not know where you live or how far a store is. I said Napa because it's 4 blocks from my home and I don't have to pay shipping that's the only reason.

Witch Doctor · 07-10-2013, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by herk7769

I am confused. How can a grease not attract dirt?

I would think the whole idea of grease is to stay sticky...

Lithium is a so called dry grease it will not attract dirt and grim. and it is not stickey...

I can right now go and wipe my finger on the ram the tooth arm and I will not find any dirt build up like you would get from lets say axle grease. I'm not a chemist so I can not give you any specifics, I know what works for me, and I stick with it. If it attracted dirt it would not state to use on break drum parts with all the dirt that comes from the break drums. just read the label and it also stated for slides such as seats and any moving parts. You can not expect metal to metal slide. What do you use to grease your pin box?

VinceU · 07-10-2013, 10:10 PM

Product Description
"The WD-40 Specialist Protective White Lithium Grease spray contains 10 oz. of lubricant that creates a thick, corrosion-resistant coating on surfaces and reduces friction during metal-to-metal contact. The grease sprays on as a liquid but cures into a hard coating that will not run, melt, or freeze off, making it suitable for use outdoors. A layer of this lubricant can be applied to components prior to storage to protect against rust and abrasion. The 10-oz. aerosol canister has a permanently attached, hinged straw, which offers two spraying options: The straw flips up to provide a precision stream of lubricant for controlled application and flips down for a fan-shaped spray from the nozzle for faster application over large areas.

Industrial lubricants can be found in most machinery performing one or more functions, including reducing friction and wear, preventing components from adhering to each other, distributing loads more evenly, dispersing heat away from moving parts, and preventing corrosion. Although many materials are used as lubricants, the most common are oil (also called fluid lubricants) and grease because of their versatility. Oil lubricants contain either a petroleum or synthetic base, the properties of which are modified by the addition of various additives. Grease lubricants, a mixture of oil lubricant and a thickening agent, have a thicker consistency than oil, enabling use wherever liquids cannot be retained and requiring less frequent changes.

WD-40 manufactures lubricants, and household and industrial cleaners. The company is headquartered in San Diego, CA."

Heres how some dry gease works, have used tubes and spray. Only problem is its pricey.....key is it dries after application.

**Herk7769** · 07-11-2013, 05:34 AM

Thanks Vince and Glenn.
I might just have to try some of that...

cobrageek · 07-11-2013, 09:16 AM

Thanks guys. I've got both spray and tube on order from Amazon and I'll try it out this weekend and see if it makes the difference. It would be really nice to "fix" this without having to take it in to the dealer. I appreciate the help.

LKicklight · 07-11-2013, 09:44 AM

On our 270RET Crusader, if you do run the slide in all the way until it chatters, you have to crawl under the coach, remove the access panel and actually ratchet it out about an inch before the teeth will engage enough to get it out. It also tilts in at the top quite a bit when retracting and only when its just about end will it straighten up flush with the coach. Been to the dealer several times, cannot duplicate the problem at there facility. Plan on recording it on video next time out, Goshen when experts are there to see for themselves..
kickster

VinceU · 07-11-2013, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by cobrageek

Thanks guys. I've got both spray and tube on order from Amazon and I'll try it out this weekend and see if it makes the difference. It would be really nice to "fix" this without having to take it in to the dealer. I appreciate the help.

One more tip about the spay lubes, stay away from that clutch and motor, they don't want it!

cobrageek · 07-11-2013, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by VinceU

One more tip about the spay lubes, stay away from that clutch and motor, they don't want it!

Thanks Vince. That's interesting. I assume these have "normal" oil based grease. So does the lithium grease create problems with the oil based grease?

I was planning on putting it just on the wheels, tracks and rack/pinion gears, which are all 2 feet away from the motor and gearbox, so it shouldn't be a problem. But I would like to understand the reasons for this to help understand future uses.

Thanks.

VinceU · 07-11-2013, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cobrageek

Thanks Vince. That's interesting. I assume these have "normal" oil based grease. So does the lithium grease create problems with the oil based grease?

I was planning on putting it just on the wheels, tracks and rack/pinion gears, which are all 2 feet away from the motor and gearbox, so it shouldn't be a problem. But I would like to understand the reasons for this to help understand future uses.

Thanks.

Grease is simply a lubricant in compound bearing "soap". Old fashioned grease is like 90 weight oil in a soap base. It heps the oil from oxiding and keep lubricity. Proplem is a magnet for air and water born trash. Grease best used in closed housings. Newer greases better called lubricant ca be can, tub,e or spray applied. In lieu of oil, thet use litium, moly, graphite for lubrication. The "soap" or carrier will vary to the application. These are loosley known as dry lubes, hense no oil.

For your case remove any grease you can reach, apply your choice. No reaction beteen the two.
As for no lube at the motor and clutch, will cause the motor to overheat and clutch to slip out of controll.
As stated, grease in the open will attract and trap contaminents, thus accelerting wear and worse.

cobrageek · 07-12-2013, 10:48 AM

I just discovered that there is lube marketed specifically for slide outs:
http://www.amazon.com/Protect-All-40003-Slide-Out-Protectant/dp/B001FCB1JG/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1373644007&sr=8-3&keywords=slide+out+lube

I'm guessing that this is just lithium grease with a specific marketing. Does anyone here know for sure?

Witch Doctor · 07-13-2013, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by cobrageek

I just discovered that there is lube marketed specifically for slide outs:
http://www.amazon.com/Protect-All-40003-Slide-Out-Protectant/dp/B001FCB1JG/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1373644007&sr=8-3&keywords=slide+out+lube

I'm guessing that this is just lithium grease with a specific marketing. Does anyone here know for sure?

I have tried that lub, and really did not like it, but it will work, all most the same. Since I switched I have never had a problem, plus could use it on other stuff........

cobrageek · 07-16-2013, 11:38 AM

I received the spary in lithium grease yesterday and the tube version on Saturday. I sprayed the tracks from the outside and then used the tube stuff from the inside on the inside wheel and last bit of the track. I then ran it in about half way and back out and the clutch never clicked until the very end. It also was able to pull the bed much more level than recently. More like it did when it was on the lot.

I ran the slider in and out a couple more times and the lithium grease made all the difference. It worked flawlessly with no clicking of the clutch until the bed frame was up against the trailer frame at one end or the other and the bed was much more level. Now I just hope that it all "dries" correctly so it doesn't collect gunk and also doesn't drip on the couch that is below the tracks when it is closed :-).

Thanks for the help guys!

Witch Doctor · 07-16-2013, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by cobrageek

I received the spary in lithium grease yesterday and the tube version on Saturday. I sprayed the tracks from the outside and then used the tube stuff from the inside on the inside wheel and last bit of the track. I then ran it in about half way and back out and the clutch never clicked until the very end. It also was able to pull the bed much more level than recently. More like it did when it was on the lot.

I ran the slider in and out a couple more times and the lithium grease made all the difference. It worked flawlessly with no clicking of the clutch until the bed frame was up against the trailer frame at one end or the other and the bed was much more level. Now I just hope that it all "dries" correctly so it doesn't collect gunk and also doesn't drip on the couch that is below the tracks when it is closed :-).

Thanks for the help guys!

I do not think that it will drip off< I know the spray will not, but the tube stuff, I hope you didn't put to much on, It will hold up to heat, rain and use. I use the tube on my pin and it stays there where I put it. I'm surprised that they didn't lub anything (YOUR DEALER) before you picked it up. It will not pick up gunk and it is dry already, except the tube, that will never dry so I hope you didn't put to much on. Happy Travels To you ............

cobrageek · 07-16-2013, 02:21 PM

I put on very little of the tube stuff. I tested it out on something in my garage and it took 24 hours or so but it did seem to dry out and things stopped sticking. I didn't do the same test with the spray on stuff but it did seem basically the same when I sprayed it on. I'll go check on it tonight and see how "dry" it seems.

cobrageek · 07-17-2013, 03:30 PM

Interestingly the mechanism had wiped the sprayed on stuff to the point of being very thin, but it also seemed to be quite dry. The tube stuff seemed quite goopy still. I'll wipe up what's left of the tube stuff and get it out of the way. There must be something different about the formulation of the tube stuff compared to the spray stuff. I'll have to remember that.

Witch Doctor · 07-17-2013, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cobrageek

Interestingly the mechanism had wiped the sprayed on stuff to the point of being very thin, but it also seemed to be quite dry. The tube stuff seemed quite goopy still. I'll wipe up what's left of the tube stuff and get it out of the way. There must be something different about the formulation of the tube stuff compared to the spray stuff. I'll have to remember that.

The tube stuff will never dry, that's why I said the spray. The spray will not come off if you ran your slide in and out with the tube stuff on the tooth tract then it will transfer. I still do not think that you will have a problem, wipe off any that you see in lumps or excess. the tube will not dry it is not a dry lube. You need to spray your tract and gear every year. As long as you do not see anything dripping you should be alright. The Slide lub they sell at CW is just pure junk...

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