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Old 07-31-2016, 02:51 PM   #21
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BandJCarm is right- slide supports are not recommended. If I hadn't thrown it away, I could have posted the excerpt from my owner's manual where it said they were not recommended.
If that is the case why do they advertise and sell them? I use but I do it with caution which most folks do not. Used them for years. Later RJD
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Old 07-31-2016, 03:06 PM   #22
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If that is the case why do they advertise and sell them? I use but I do it with caution which most folks do not. Used them for years. Later RJD
Like another poster stated; the slide supports are a carryover from the old style slides. The new slides (like yours) don't need them and don't recommend them as they can change the load points and damage the mechanisms. But, I understand old habits die hard. I for one would be happy to carry around less stuff
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Old 07-31-2016, 03:08 PM   #23
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If that is the case why do they advertise and sell them? I use but I do it with caution which most folks do not. Used them for years. Later RJD


Lots of things fall under the category of things that are sold but can void warranties- the first that comes to mind are hitches that attach to bumpers.

I don't have an answer to your question other than to hazard a guess- because consumer want them.
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Old 07-31-2016, 03:18 PM   #24
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If that is the case why do they advertise and sell them? I use but I do it with caution which most folks do not. Used them for years. Later RJD
If they informed the consumer of it, they wouldn't be able to sell them and the manufacturer would have to stop making them.

Why do they sell those fake license plates that have NFL/MLB/NBA/NCAA team logos on them, when many states require both official plates on the vehicle?
Same thing as slide supports.
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Old 07-31-2016, 03:37 PM   #25
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I too hold my breath every time I push my Georgetown slide-out extend and retract buttons; especially the retract. I have not had one fail yet but I have heard many actual accounts from RV owners having problems with them. They give trouble even in expensive rigs like Winnebagos and the problems occur whether they are cable, rack or hydraulic driven.

I am wondering when the RV manufactures will learn the lessons from the makers of kitchen cabinets. The problem with slide-outs is the roller systems they employ are crude and require a lot of force to move the heavy slides-out structures causing the actuation systems to be heavily loaded.

One solution would be to make the roller systems require less force. If they rolled as smoothly as a modern kitchen drawers, it might solve a lot of problems. You might even be able to move them in an out by hand your actuation system failed.

Modern kitchen drawers use precision metal ball bearing systems which are very reliable and can transfer large loads with little friction. Maybe, one of these days some RV manufacturer might try getting a kitchen drawer ball bearing slider manufacturer to produce their ball bearing assemblies big enough for heavy RV slide-outs. It could be just a matter of scaling up their designs.
That sounds good and I'm not saying it would not be bad idea but kitchen drawers are not subjected to the elements.. My concern would be the bearing rusting up or gumming up and jamming. Dirt, grime etc.. I also don't think the weight transfer between the two is anywhere close.. Not to mention the added cost... JMO...
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That sounds good and I'm not saying it would not be bad idea but kitchen drawers are not subjected to the elements.. My concern would be the bearing rusting up or gumming up and jamming. Dirt, grime etc.. I also don't think the weight transfer between the two is anywhere close.. Not to mention the added cost... JMO...
Maybe you are right that kitchen drawer sliders might become contaminated but they could be made so as not to corrode. At the same time, when I look at the roller system in my Georgetown slide-outs, they are nylon rollers with standard steel pin shafts. And they roll on smooth plastic surfaces that probably deflect under the force of the rollers. If they could just apply sealed ball bearings and hardened tracks it might help a lot. The slide-out rollers are fairly well protected from dust since they are retracted during travel. They might also help by providing additional rollers on the sides to counter slide-out misalignments. If my rig is not leveled well, I can hear the slide-out motors really straining during retraction.
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Look at the way a roll-back vehical recovery truck or trailer is built. They roll back 8 feet and will tilt back to horizontal with 10000# on them . have never seen one of them fail.The technoligy is there,the method to do it has been in use for many years but its still a question of $.
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My slides on my 2016 Vengeance sound terrible when extending or retracting. I even had a piece of trim on one end go flying off for no reason. The dealer put it back on (glued?) and it flew off the very next time we put the slides out. When the slides move it sounds like things are ripping apart. This is our first camper/rv with slides and I really love the room they create but that sound...

I wish the slide, when retracted, did not have to come in at an angle. Don't you dare step on that floor! We had to take ours in once because somehow the floor separated from the wall. They fixed it under warranty at the dealer and after seeing ours the service guy went and reinforced the others they had on hand.
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