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Old 03-24-2013, 03:06 PM   #1
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2013 Cedar Creek 36RE - Hydraulics Help

Just got our 36RE out of storage and am trying to prep it for a spring break trip to Savannah. I had a dickens of a time getting the jacks down and slides out when I got it home. I figured the battery was low and didn't think much about it. Today, I tried to run the bedroom and kitchen slides in because it is supposed to snow this evening. I got the bedroom slide part way in and the system stopped. A solenoid clicks in the hydraulic pump, but the pump does not start and nothing moves. The RV has been plugged in since last Monday and the battery shows a full charge on the panel inside the RV. It is a little cold outside (30 F), but I wouldn't think that would be an issue.

Any ideas about how to get the slides in? Anything I need to check? I am going to call my dealer tomorrow, but would like to get the slides in before it snows.

Any help would be appreciated.

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Old 03-24-2013, 03:10 PM   #2
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Do you have a jump box? Might be a bad cell in batt.
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Old 03-24-2013, 03:25 PM   #3
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Do you have a jump box? Might be a bad cell in batt.
I have a 900 amp jump box that is fully charged. It helped last Monday when the battery was low/dead, but did not help today.

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Old 03-24-2013, 03:29 PM   #4
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Maybe a pump issue - try to run the pump in manual mode (with a drill) - See lipperts support site for more details on how to do it. I have read them through just in case and they have plenty of troubleshooting details there.

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Old 03-24-2013, 03:40 PM   #5
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Don't ask me why or how or tell me no way but I had about the same problem while in FL this past month with our 2010 36RE and found that while using the remote control unit the slides or jacks would not always work right, I then went to the side panel and used the hardwaired switch and everything worked great. After reseting the remote controll unit it work fine. Make sure you have good bty's in controll unit in both the hand unit and the unit mounted in the RV. Like I said don't ask me why or how just know it did it.
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Old 03-24-2013, 04:04 PM   #6
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Since your just brought it out of storage I would try replacing the battery first. Especially if the battery is a few years old. If the battery is trashed the slides will not work.
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Old 03-24-2013, 04:29 PM   #7
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Thanks for the suggestions. It may be the battery. It has been charging for a couple of hours, but when I go push the switch by the hydraulic pump, nothing happens. Now the solenoid doesn't even click.

I will get a new battery for the remote tomorrow. It takes an odd battery and I don't think I will be able to find it at Wally-world.

I tried running the pump with my drill, but Murphy made sure both batteries were dead. I'll try that again when the batteries are charged up.

Hopefully, the snow will pass us by. If there are other ideas, I would love to hear them.

I love this group. Everybody is so willing to help.

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Old 03-24-2013, 04:57 PM   #8
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You may have poped the breaker on the pump from cycleing it to fast, it is a small red button, should have a red tag over it on the right side of cargo area just below and to the rear of the pump. Odds are you have a bad battery.
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Old 03-24-2013, 07:49 PM   #9
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Mike, Are you saying that you only have 1 battery in your 36RE? I have a 36CKTS and it requires and has 4 6V batteries. 2 for the reefer and 2 for the system. Deep cycle marine batts take days to fully charge and your indicator will read full if you are plugged in. For your remote battery, they can't be found at Wally World but The red bullseye has them.

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Old 03-24-2013, 09:56 PM   #10
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An update. I got the slides in manually using the drill on the pump trick. Took me a while to figure out that the valve bodies were mislabeled. Once I found the right valve body, the slides slid right in. I still have a power to the pump issue that I will address with my dealer tomorrow.

Duck, there is only one battery. I think our reefer only runs on 115V or propane. Didn't think about the battery reading full while plugged in. I'll unplug and check again in the morning.

Good night all, and thanks for all the help. I will sleep better knowing that the snow won't be getting into our RV.

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Hey Duck, How did you figure out that N91D was an active tail number? Furthermore what it belonged to? That's cool. Secondly, Forbes, my slide remotetransmitter has batteries in it. Are you saying that the remotes receiver in the trailer has a battery or batteries as well or did I misread the post?
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Some of the older model units have a small back up bty in them to keep the code storied, my unit (2010) has a #2023 bty in the receiver unit, not very easy to get but had to change it this year. Not sure about the newer units but if dead the unit will not respond or do some crazy things.
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Hey Duck, How did you figure out that N91D was an active tail number? Furthermore what it belonged to? That's cool.
All that secret squirrel info is really public record.
The FAA maintains a registry called "Airmen Records" that has waaaay too much info.
You can even find me in there if you looked in the right place ... LOL. So next time some sky king buzzes you, get his tail number and you can find enough info to call him/her up and properly thank
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hahahah...thank you Duck. I guess it falls under the "Freedom of info" act. Forbes, I'll take a look-see once I get her uncovered and back in the driveway to see if there's a removable panel\case to maybe access a battery. My CC is a 2010 also and the landing gear act like the battery is weak....they go down part way then start back up etc...
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hahahah...thank you Duck. I guess it falls under the "Freedom of info" act. Forbes, I'll take a look-see once I get her uncovered and back in the driveway to see if there's a removable panel\case to maybe access a battery. My CC is a 2010 also and the landing gear act like the battery is weak....they go down part way then start back up etc...

Weak bty is what I found, after change it and resetting the unit I have not had anymore trouble.
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