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Old 01-01-2013, 04:20 PM   #1
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2013 Silverback and short beds

Is there any need for a sliding hitch? The 2013 brochure states a full 90 degree turning radius on short beds. A dealer I spoke with still recommended a sliding hitch anyway... he claimed there could be situations where you would need one.

We have a 2011 Ram 2500HD CC SB (6' 4" bed).
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:12 PM   #2
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I currently am pulling a 2013 silverback with a gmc shortbed pickup. I have a slider hitch and have been in a couple of tight spots in parking lots. I was not even close to needing to slide my hitch back. It is nice to know I have it but I really do not think I will ever use it.
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:22 PM   #3
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I have a 29re towing with a gmc short bed. I don't have a slider hitch. Even the dealer said i would not need one and recommended not to Get one due to the added clanking and cost of a slider. If you have at least a 6.5 bed you will never need to use one. I never even came close and i had to back it into some pretty tight spots.
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:58 PM   #4
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When I owned a 2008 Wildcat 2008 RKBS I had to use my slider hitch all the time. Since owning our Silverback I haven't had to use it once.
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Old 01-01-2013, 06:54 PM   #5
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I have a 2011 36 RE with a 08 gmc shortbed and have no slider hitch and never had a issue. But if you dont need it, I would not buy one because they do make some noise when you stop and go. Just my two cents.
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Old 01-01-2013, 07:50 PM   #6
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The one thing you might need to consider will be if you are thinking of adding the air ride king pin. It dramatically improves ride and handling, but in my case, it did shorten the distance between the trailer and cab. This was not a problem in my TV, but it could be a concern in a short bed.
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Old 01-01-2013, 08:28 PM   #7
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Here was my thought process.... I wanted to make sure I would never hit the truck with the RV. I got lots of differing opinions from the RV dealer, hitch dealer and friends who tow a 5th wheel. DW and I decided to get the PullRite SuperGlide. Yes there is a little bit of clunking but not much. As a new 5th wheel owner who had never towed anything before, the peace of mind of not having to worry about a TV/5th Wheel bump is worth the price of the SuperGlide hitch. You may not agree, but it works for DW and me.

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Old 01-01-2013, 09:57 PM   #8
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The Cedar Creek has a different front cap than the Silverback line. The Silverback front cap is designed to make a severe turn with a six and half foot bed. Personally I think your dealer is just trying to sell you something you don't need.
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Old 01-03-2013, 08:38 PM   #9
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I am in the same situation. Just bought a Silverback 33rl and started looking at different fifth wheel hitches and I am looking at a slider just in case I ever hook onto something different. I have been pricing out different brands and sliders vs non-sliders. My dealer priced me out a 16K Reese non slider for $1400 and a 16K Reese slider for $1700. I went to a place that just services RV's and installs hitches they priced me out a Reese 20K slider or a Curt 20K slider for $1400.
Are these good prices for a installed hitch? And which hitch is better Reese or Curt?
There is still snow on the ground and its 17 degrees here in Michigan so I won't be getting the camper home for a couple of months yet so I still have time to shop around.
Please let me know your thoughts
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Old 01-03-2013, 08:54 PM   #10
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IMO...
Make sure to review and compare the Pullrite brands...they make both fixed hitches and auto sliders. If you do some research online, you can find comparable prices for a auto slider to a fixed/manual slider by other manufacters.
Don't get wedged into only the brands your Dealer sells, they carry one or two brands mostly for convenience and bulk discounts.



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Old 01-03-2013, 09:07 PM   #11
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You will not need a slider if you have a truck with a 6.5 foot bed plus or minus. They do make a little more noise, clanking, then a non slider. The cost you are being quoted of course includes a lot of labor. Check out the cost of just the hitches on etrailer.com. It is not hard to install them yourself if you have the time and a little knowhow.
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Old 01-04-2013, 09:44 AM   #12
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I pulled a Wildcat 28RK for 6 years with a slider hitch on a short bet Chevy. Never used it once! Now have a Silverback 29RE with a Reese 22K on the same Chevy and have no need for the slider. Anybody just needs to be careful when backing in at those angles. Just saying.......
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:24 AM   #13
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Newbie, and female... What type of situation would call for a slider? We are in a similar situation...our SB 29RE arrives next week, the dealership discouraged the purchase of a slider hitch...after research we felt it might be good insurance to have one. Now... not so sure...might just be a waste of money. I do have a question though....what does "dropping" the trailer mean, and does having a slider prevent that....saw some postings on another forum and someone stated having a slider prevented damage to the truck?!?
My husband's truck is a Dodge Ram 2010 2500 HD Diesel Laramie.
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Newbie, and female... What type of situation would call for a slider? We are in a similar situation...our SB 29RE arrives next week, the dealership discouraged the purchase of a slider hitch...after research we felt it might be good insurance to have one. Now... not so sure...might just be a waste of money. I do have a question though....what does "dropping" the trailer mean, and does having a slider prevent that....saw some postings on another forum and someone stated having a slider prevented damage to the truck?!?
My husband's truck is a Dodge Ram 2010 2500 HD Diesel Laramie.
Do you have a short bed truck?
If so that would be the reason for a slider hitch.
I have a slider in my 08 Silverado sb and in two years have not used it.
But there will come a day that the slider will come in handy .
What it does is allows the the hitch to move back in the bed to allow for slow speed tight turning maneuvers and not allow the front of the fifth wheel camper to hit the cab of your truck.

Dropping the camper off the fifth wheel hitch is something entirely different and is no way associated with a slider.


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Yes, we have the short bed.
So...what do they mean when they talk about dropping the fifth wheel?? Just trying to prepare for "whatever" could happen. We are going from a TT to fifth wheel, 26' to 34'..
Everyone tells us the towing will be so much easier...hope so!
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For the Silverback if you have at least a 6.5+/- foot sb bed you will never need a slider hitch. But if you are worried about it there is no major negative in getting one except a slider is slightly more expensive and makes a little more noise, clank/clunk, at times.
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Yes, we have the short bed.
So...what do they mean when they talk about dropping the fifth wheel?? Just trying to prepare for "whatever" could happen. We are going from a TT to fifth wheel, 26' to 34'..
Everyone tells us the towing will be so much easier...hope so!
If the pin doesn't fully engage in the fifth wheel hitch the camper will slide off the hitch and land on your truck bed sides!

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If the pin doesn't fully engage in the fifth wheel hitch the camper will slide off the hitch and land on your truck bed sides!

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The greatest prevention of this is to:
- have an established hitch up checklist
- don't rush
- pay attention
- double check yourself
- do a "pull test" while the landing gear are still on or close to the ground

(I'm also a B&W fanboy and don't see how I could improperly hitch my B&W unless I forgot to close the handle.)

p.s. this isn't for Turbs, I'm sure he knows this stuff! :-)
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:51 AM   #19
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X2 with ependydad. Also let your pin ride up onto your hitch. When most people drop there FW it is due to setting the pin height too high when hitching.When unhitching it is good to have that little bit of space between the hitch and the pin. But hitching you do not want that.
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I wanted a fix hitch but decided to take caution and bought a auto slider.

IMO...when I was shopping for hitches, the cost was the same between a slider hitch vs a well built (popular) fix hitch models...so price will not be as much as a factor.

If you only want to buy one hitch...do your research and think about it a few times before you pull the trigger...gets expensive for "do overs"



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