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Old 10-18-2015, 08:15 PM   #11
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It must be binding up on something. Can you see any scrape marks? Any carpet underneath getting caught up? If it worked when you bought it, something has changed and it might be physical, not electrical.
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Old 10-19-2015, 10:10 AM   #12
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Nothing is binding or scraping as far as we can tell. We tried the override technique to try to get the motors to keep going to fully retract but they just stop. We never saw it actually be retracted at the dealer so who knows if it worked just as it should initially. Even when we picked it up the bedroom slide didn't seem to be in as far as it should. We asked them about it and they said it was good to go. I don't understand why they don't just use the same type of slide system as the other two on the trailer.
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Old 10-19-2015, 10:53 AM   #13
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For slides in the upper part of the trailer, the Schwintek is hard to beat. It doesn't require any tracks or hardware under the floor. That's no problem for the other 5th wheel slides because there isn't any usable storage under the floor. I have owned other 5th wheels that used electric motor and hydraulic mechanisms under the bed. It wipes out a lot of storage and in the case of the 38CK, would mess with the washer/dryer piping. Access to the Schwintek drive motors in the walls on either side of the slide, makes servicing pretty easy. Mine originally had troubles in below freezing weather because of mastic adhesive that got slopped on to the rollers underneath. I removed that with paint thinner and reset the breaker. Since then, some silicone on the tracks and rollers is all that's been required to keep it working smoothly. Every time I go out to the trailer in storage or on the road (which is almost daily) the slide is cycled.

I don't want to discourage you but the Lippert slide gear under the other slides has been a bit more of a pain. I have had the rack gears break teeth from skipping. This is because the synchronizing mechanism isn't evenly loaded. CK put the racks where they fit best with the tanks and they don't see a balanced load. Especially the passenger side (dinette). There is a Lippert fix for this but I have access to welding equipment and have strengthened the push out tubes and all has been OK. This mechanism should NOT be lubricated. If you see how those slides have to jump up over the sill and glide on a piece of plastic, you will not be so critical of the Schwintek. I have lifted the carpet and also countersunk all the screws on the frame for the glide. Doing so, I found that 1/3 of the screws had been twisted off during manufacture.

Finally, when my dealer immediately dropped $40,000 off the MSRP for the 38CK, at time of purchase, I realized how this game is played. I sometimes think what I got was a just a DIY kit, but all in all, this trailer can be finessed into a wonderful vehicle.
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Old 11-10-2015, 05:33 PM   #14
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Well after trying all the little tricks we know of on how to get a stubborn slide to go in and out here is what it took: added three more rollers under the slide for a total of five; exchanged the 300:1 motors for 500:1 motors; added two hard plastic tracks for the wheels under the bed to roll on; added bigger wheels under the bed with heavier screws; installed a new Schwintek communicator wire.

Now it's off to the paint shop to paint all the new screw heads and any more cosmetic work that needs to be done. Then a wash and polish. Besides this they installed a new TrailAir hitch, additional battery disconnect, door lock on the 20 Cu. inch fridge, repainted the driver rear quarter panel. Maybe we can take delivery Friday.
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Old 11-11-2015, 10:36 AM   #15
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Wow! Sounds like they really stepped up and tried to solve the problem and not just Band-Aid it. Was all this done at the dealer and about how long did it take them? I ask because our 2015 38CK goes in to the dealer Saturday for the same problem(plus other things).
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Old 11-11-2015, 11:42 AM   #16
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I looked at a new 38CK and passed because of two things. It looked like you couldn't use the bathroom without opening the slide and there is no way I wanted to deal with a Schwintec slide. I hope they can get it straightened out..
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Old 11-11-2015, 01:13 PM   #17
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For some people, pushing a button is too much work but the Schwintec slide is in use all over and ours works great. We gladly gave up the open hallway for the storage in the slide. That is where the washer/dryer resides and is great for family and other guests to use. We are headed out soon for 4 months on the road. The slide will get a really good workout.
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Old 11-11-2015, 06:05 PM   #18
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This has taken about six weeks, with all the back and forth discussion with FR, Lippert and Schwintek. We have not taken official delivery of the unit. I live across the street from the dealer so it was easy for me to check on the unit and physically see what they were not doing or doing. Correction to the size of the refrigerator. 20 cu. ft, not inches, sorry.
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Old 11-11-2015, 07:04 PM   #19
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Wheredo you apply the silicone? On the tracks / the rollers or both?
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Old 11-11-2015, 08:18 PM   #20
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I apply it to both.
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