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11-22-2013, 08:50 AM
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50 amp surge guard
Camping World has 50amp surge guard on sale with a $29 buck install. What I would like to know is how many on here have them on your camper, and would you get a hardwired one or a plug in. Also C/W has a satellte Dish on sale that install's on top of camper at a good price and a $29 install fee. I already have a Tailgater, what would you do
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11-22-2013, 08:56 AM
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I like the hardwired. I once got the portable plug in Progressive EMS, after a heavy rain one night it got too wet and started reading incorrectly. I returned it to Progressive and got a hardwired unit. Some power pedestals are very low to the ground. Once you plug the portable unit in the bottom is sometimes on the ground.
With the great price on the install, I would go with the hardwired.
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11-22-2013, 09:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ret2006
I like the hardwired. I once got the portable plug in Progressive EMS, after a heavy rain one night it got too wet and started reading incorrectly. I returned it to Progressive and got a hardwired unit. Some power pedestals are very low to the ground. Once you plug the portable unit in the bottom is sometimes on the ground.
With the great price on the install, I would go with the hardwired.
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I concur as well!
I have the 30amp hardwired progressive industries ems.
The only way to go. IMO
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11-22-2013, 09:08 AM
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Thanks for asking. I strongly suggest that you buy the Progressive Industries EMS unit instead. This has a Lifetime transferable warranty and is Made in USA. The Surge Guard you're looking at has a one year warranty and is made overseas somewhere. I was under the impression that CW was doing this $29 install deal on just about anything.
Especially if you're having someone else install it, I would get the hardwired unit. They can't "walk away", are out of the elements, and have a handy display to show you what's going on.
As for roof-mounted Sat dish. Nah. They cost a fortune and when you park under trees, you can't use it. Stick with the Tailgater you have unless you are in a Motorhome and want to watch TV while you're moving. (If the Tailgater isn't meeting your needs, go to a tripod and dish you can align yourself.)
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11-22-2013, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by BarryD0706
Thanks for asking. I strongly suggest that you buy the Progressive Industries EMS unit instead. This has a Lifetime transferable warranty and is Made in USA. The Surge Guard you're looking at has a one year warranty and is made overseas somewhere. I was under the impression that CW was doing this $29 install deal on just about anything.
Especially if you're having someone else install it, I would get the hardwired unit. They can't "walk away", are out of the elements, and have a handy display to show you what's going on.
As for roof-mounted Sat dish. Nah. They cost a fortune and when you park under trees, you can't use it. Stick with the Tailgater you have unless you are in a Motorhome and want to watch TV while you're moving. (If the Tailgater isn't meeting your needs, go to a tripod and dish you can align yourself.)
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Thanks a lot I will call C/W, I try to buy when I can anything thats made in the USA. Again thanks a lot
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11-22-2013, 01:09 PM
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I have a 50 amp hardwired Progressive Industries EMS.
A roof mounted dish is convenient but only if you never camp under trees.
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11-22-2013, 01:42 PM
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If they will hardwire an EMS 50 for $29 let em. It took me half a day. Working with #6 wire is a bear. The wire cost that much.
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11-25-2013, 08:48 AM
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I just talked to Camping World and the $29 install is really not true, you have to read the fine print. I was told that was not covered under the $29 fee and it would be 2 hours at $120 per hour plus parts. I am thinking now about the portable one now, I don't need to try to wire the unit up myself, I might kill myself or melt the camper.
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11-25-2013, 09:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spock123
I just talked to Camping World and the $29 install is really not true, you have to read the fine print. I was told that was not covered under the $29 fee and it would be 2 hours at $120 per hour plus parts. I am thinking now about the portable one now, I don't need to try to wire the unit up myself, I might kill myself or melt the camper.
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My hardwire was a 45 minute install.
Took longer to round up tools...
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11-25-2013, 09:24 AM
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11-25-2013, 09:37 AM
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30-amp is much easier than 50-amp.
I think going with the portable is a good choice.
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11-25-2013, 10:02 AM
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I have the PI 50 amp portable. It is a simple surge only protector. I should have bought one that protects against low voltage as that seems to be more common than surges.
Last year in FL, my neighbors heat pump failed and she had the same unit that I do. The tech told her it could have been low voltage.
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11-25-2013, 10:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spock123
I just talked to Camping World and the $29 install is really not true, you have to read the fine print. I was told that was not covered under the $29 fee and it would be 2 hours at $120 per hour plus parts. I am thinking now about the portable one now, I don't need to try to wire the unit up myself, I might kill myself or melt the camper.
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My trailer is presently at Camping World, getting my axles, and brakes serviced and having the in-line surge protector installed. The install is costing me $29.00.
http://www.campingworld.com/shopping...ge-guard/69522
I do have a question for those of you that have this type of in-line surge protector. Running a Honda generator (EU2000i) will it shut down power to trailer when the generator cycles from idle to full power while using appliances???
I hope this question makes sense.
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11-25-2013, 11:38 AM
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I believe the surge protectors are designed to handle up to 132 volts for 8 seconds before they will shut down. I think you'll be ok.
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11-25-2013, 01:37 PM
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We have a Honda EU2000i and a Progressive 50 amp EMS and it works fine when the generator load jumps from appliances being cycled.
You do need to use a ground neutral adapter on the Honda or the Progressive EMS will not work with the Honda generators.
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11-25-2013, 02:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sidney
We have a Honda EU2000i and a Progressive 50 amp EMS and it works fine when the generator load jumps from appliances being cycled.
You do need to use a ground neutral adapter on the Honda or the Progressive EMS will not work with the Honda generators.
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Sidney
I have a Champion 4000W gen and a (hard wired) Progressive 30 amp EMS. Will I need to use a ground neutral adapter as well?
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11-25-2013, 02:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rskrbina
Sidney
I have a Champion 4000W gen and a (hard wired) Progressive 30 amp EMS. Will I need to use a ground neutral adapter as well?
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Yes!
And you can make it yourself.
Buy a male plug in at hardware store.
Run a short wire from ground terminal. "Green" screw to the neutral screw "silver".
The "hot" one is gold colored, leave it blank.
Turbs
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11-25-2013, 02:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rskrbina
Sidney
I have a Champion 4000W gen and a (hard wired) Progressive 30 amp EMS. Will I need to use a ground neutral adapter as well?
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I don't know about the Champion gennies.
But any generator that is not wired ground neutral would require the adapter to work with the Progressive EMS.
As Turbs mentioned the adapters are very simple to make.
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11-25-2013, 05:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by f1100turbo
Yes! And you can make it yourself. Buy a male plug in at hardware store. Run a short wire from ground terminal. "Green" screw to the neutral screw "silver". The "hot" one is gold colored, leave it blank. Turbs
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Turbs- where do you plug in said adapter? I just ordered a PI EMS30 for my new Evo 2850 and run a Honda 2000.
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11-25-2013, 05:39 PM
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Or just shut off the EMS when on the generator? Is there still a real need fo the EMS when on a genny? Inquiring minds wanna know.
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